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Post by Teddy Bear on Jan 10, 2012 22:09:39 GMT
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Post by carl1960 on Jan 11, 2012 8:12:36 GMT
So after telling us not to drink for two days a week on Monday. What are BBc Breakfast promoting today in their "sales hour" yep...gin!
Of course high quality expensive gin which I imagine is ok because it won't sell to the masses. Hence interview with man who will spend £8-£9 or even more on a cocktail. Welcome to the reral world
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Post by carl1960 on Jan 18, 2012 13:17:59 GMT
Ok so no sign of a response to my complaint. As they aim to reply within 10 working days blah blah I'll give them 3 more working days and then complain about the lack of reply. That strange feeling of deja vu. I'm still angry over this and I think I'll fire off an E-mail to my MP over the lack of any credible complaints procedure at the BBC. I'll copy that here once I've written it as I'm rather busy today. Not with work however, as the BBc report on latest job loss figures. Was it a good thing that the amount of people claiming JSA hasn't gone up to any extent? Whell it wouldn't if like me your partner works 16 hours a week or more, regardless you will not get JSA income based. You may qualify for 6 months JSA contribution based (if you have paid enough NI). So after 6 months claiming a sizeable percentage will get nothing except an NI contribution credit. Also unless the rules have changed radically since I worked in DWP 16 + 17 year olds not estranged, men over 60 and people on training courses will not be on the statistics. Plus there will be a percentage who go sick instead of signing. So who knows what the real figure is?
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Post by thehighlandrebel on Jan 18, 2012 13:32:22 GMT
The beeb keep on telling us how hard pressed families are. Well I know how they can be £150 a year better off but don't expect Al Auntie to tell us.
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Post by carl1960 on Jan 19, 2012 20:16:31 GMT
Sometimes watching Bbc Breakfast I wonder how I don’t choke on my own vomit.
Today we have the hilarious (I think not) Phill (two L’s) Jupitus and a nice sales spot for his satirical music hall play on the coalition government. For some reason best known to the Bbc they decided to integrate it with a clip of Billy Bragg (hate his music, hate his politics). So this is what Jupitus gets up to when he’s not boring in the well past it’s sell by date Never mind the Buzzcocks, it used to be a music quiz once.
So Jupitus why no satirical play when Liebour were destroying the country and starting to mess with benefits and raising state pension age?
Still no sign of a reply to my complaint to the Bbc yet.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Jan 20, 2012 17:44:28 GMT
I moved your 2 posts related to complaints to the topic created in your honour Well done on your perseverance matey - keep bugging them. Unfortunately it's not as much or as serious as they bug us.
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Post by carl1960 on Jan 23, 2012 22:25:52 GMT
Ahh the total predicability of the BBC stikes again. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-16675314Yes it's cap benefits to £26K a year (after tax) news story. The story seems to be these poor claiments who are only on26K a year. Now having spent 18 years of my life I'd of been over the moon to earn that. I imagine now a sizeable proprtion of civil servants for DWP will be paid @ £16K. Listen to what Baroness Tongue says from Planet out of touch-brilliant we are not here to represent public opinion if we did hanging would be brought back you couldn't pay anyone to say anything that stupid. Yes these people are so far out of touch. I could go on but listen and make up yourt own mind. I note again actual information and facts are not at the fore front. I know what section of the population we are talking about in the main. But can you tell from this report?
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Post by carl1960 on Jan 24, 2012 11:08:12 GMT
Ahh Newsnight continues the nebefit cap theme affecting "the poorest" on 26K. I can't remember the name of the Bishop on there but he obviously has no grasp on reality. What did he say you expect the state to provide you with a decent standardof living. In case you don't know the JSA rate is £65.45pw or £51.85 if you are under 25. The argument is if you are living in say Knightsbridge and your rent is £20K a year you will only...only have £6K to live on.!!! For the record child benefit is £20.30 for the first child and £13.40 for every additional child. We then have a debate about how you can't expect these people to move into an area where they don't know anyone. So how many people reading this have had to move because of work or other circumstances, yep I've got my hand up I live somewhere where I don't really want to be far away from my family and friends.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Jan 24, 2012 11:34:29 GMT
As you might have seen Carl, both myself and Cher have also covered this topic. I don't have any problem with anybody who prefers to live on benefits than getting work having to move out of Knightsbridge. The travesty is that they live there anyway. Let them move to Salford.
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Post by cherenkov on Jan 24, 2012 13:45:37 GMT
This lunchtime the BBC 1 News provided another example of their policy of turning any good news for the government into bad news. Instead of emphasising that there there had been a larger than expected drop in government borrowing in December they chose instead to concentrate the viewers attention on the predicted rise in overall public sector debt to over a trillion pounds. If you read the Reuters report (see below) you will see they focused on the excellent news first, but then they're not hopelessly biased like the BBC News. uk.reuters.com/article/2012/01/24/uk-britain-economy-idUKTRE80N0KE20120124Note the last paragraph's brilliant evidence for the effectiveness of the government's policies was ignored by the BBC, "The broader public sector net borrowing measure -- which includes the cost of bailing out Britain's banks, as well as some revenues from the sector -- came in at 10.791 billion pounds in December, down from 13.935 billion pounds in December 2010." The one thing the BBC would never think of doing would be to point out what proportion of the trillion plus public debt was generated before the coalition took over, by the profligacy, incompetence, and irresponsibility of the Labour government that preceded it! The NUJ commissars would never allow that!
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Post by Teddy Bear on Jan 24, 2012 15:20:28 GMT
Good post Cher - well spotted
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Post by cherenkov on Jan 24, 2012 19:03:23 GMT
The PM coverage at five was even more biased! It is now my belief that the BBC, the Public Sector Unions and their professional governing bodies, their puppets Labour, the Church of England, and the Socialist mini-states like Nottingham City Council have had secret talks and decided on a co-ordinated approach to making 2012 the year they will attempt to bring down the elected government and destroy any hope of a democratic, non-socialist future for this country once and for all. I can almost predict huge strikes involving the transport unions especially, and anyone else they can incite into doing the same, all designed to have their maximum impact around the time of the Olympics. They are now obsessed with preventing the British economy and the coalition government from deriving any benefit or advantage whatever from the Games. Thankfully it's as obvious to the government as it is to me, which is why they have made sure there are plenty of our armed forces around to take the place of the firemen and ambulance men, even nurses and doctors (there's a story about army doctors training in NHS casualty units this week). This could be the defining year in the history of this country. If we want to remain a democracy we must support the legitimate government against the coming onslaught. I know it's bad that thanks to the knee-jerk Toryphobic Scots the UK now has a coalition government as opposed to a Conservative one, and that elements in the Lib Dems have turned traitor already, but that is their democratic right. If the socialist conspiracy wins there will be no effective democratic rights. Labour, as their masters originally planned, will reign over us forever. www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2089380/Staffing-crisis-casualty-wards-forces-NHS-bosses-turn-military-medics.htmlI reckon the shortages are just an excuse- they're getting them ready just in case. I wonder if the BBC will also try to incite the riots again like it helped to last Summer. I wouldn't be surprised.
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Post by carl1960 on Jan 24, 2012 20:34:56 GMT
Stop me if you've heard this one before- Refinery goes inti liquadation! This COULD result in SHORTAGES AND PRICE RISES. Yep it's the good old que for everyone to rush out and fill up. Despite BP says there is no problem and no shortages. Same old same old from The BBc.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Jan 24, 2012 21:18:16 GMT
I'm waiting for the BBC to find somebody who will link it to the Coalition cuts as the cause of the refinery closing.
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Post by cherenkov on Jan 24, 2012 22:54:36 GMT
I'm forcing myself to watch Newsnight right now. In comparison the One O'Clock News was like a Conservative Party Political Broadcast in comparison, in that the NUJ had enforced a decision that nobody was allowed to mention the unexpected redcution in government borrowing in december and the 3 billion reduction in our overall public debt.
Sorry to swear guys but the BBC are fucking traitors. They want to wreck our recovery and break up the UK. But what do we do to bring the bastards down.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Jan 24, 2012 23:39:26 GMT
I think it's a given that with things continuing as they are, the inevitable shit will hit the proverbial fan, in whatever forms it takes, as it has began already. One consolation for what it's worth as far as 'justice' is concerned, is that they carry the seeds of their own destruction too. Another consolation is perspective of life - in this regard they will always be poor, and we will always be rich.
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Post by cherenkov on Jan 24, 2012 23:45:22 GMT
For your entertainment I'm posting the email I sent to Newsnight just now. Sorry about the bad language but sometimes no other words suffice. Toworrow some intern will scan it and wipe it out before Jeremy sees it and gets upset! "Look you traitors. I know you are under the control of the NUJ commissars, but now, after today's distortion of the truth that so obviously shows the government's measures are working; uk.reuters.com/article/2012/01/24/uk-britain-economy-idUKTRE80N0KE20120124"The Office for National Statistics said on Tuesday that public sector net borrowing excluding the government's bailout of the financial sector fell to 13.708 billion pounds last month, below forecasts for 14.9 billion, taking borrowing in the fiscal year to date to 103.289 billion pounds, 11 billion pounds lower than last year. This left the government on track to beat its target to cut borrowing in the 2011/12 financial year to 127 billion pounds from 137.6 billion the year before, with many economists pencilling in a figure of just 122 billion pounds." You b******* didn't acknowledge that did you? "The broader public sector net borrowing measure -- which includes the cost of bailing out Britain's banks, as well as some revenues from the sector -- came in at 10.791 billion pounds in December, down from 13.935 billion pounds in December 2010." Read more: biasedbbc.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=rant&thread=1417&page=3#4153#ixzz1kQBIVC48Ditto. You biased b******* make me f****** sick. You're a disgrace to whatever professional body that could possibly admit you, oh yeah that would be the NUJ. I mean why didn't you break down the trillion pounds plus public debt into what the previous government as opposed to the present government contributed. There can only be one reason and that is that you are politically biased against the legitimate government of this country. Well a word of warning. Thanks to your NUJ commissars your distortion of the truth in the promotion of the TUC, BBC, Labour, and even the Church of England's conspiracy to bring the legitimate government of this country down, is pissing off millions of realists who, unlike yourselves are not blinkered by idealistic socialist garbage. You're f****** traitors and I fully expect you and your moronic selfish friends will try to wreck this year, including the Olympics, and everything else you can, until you get your way. Shameless, unethical, dishonest, biased b*******! Cxxxx Cxxxxxx MRCVS. PS I make no apologies for my bad language. You so richly deserve it." I hope you all had a laugh! PS I was proud to give them my full name and address but please note, I apologise for brininging such bad language to this board and assure you all that I will not repeat it. Today however I have to say, when I saw how they were distorting the truth and depriving ordinary people of the right to believe that the government's policies were clearly working, I'm afraid something snapped.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Jan 25, 2012 14:08:55 GMT
I really don't have a problem with your language Cher, and I can easily understand the frustration that led to it. You should see me playing golf sometime The great pity is while you might feel better for having 'gotten it out', your essential message won't reach the people you want to 'hit'. I feel frustrated and sick at the damage the BBC is doing to this society, and others, with its biased agenda, and in no small measure also to those in society who are taken in by it. For me the BBC represent an evil that I could cheerfully see wiped off the planet like a dog turd off a shoe. Seems you feel the same This is why we invest the energy in posting to this site and help as many others who might pass here to reflect honestly on the way the BBC distorts the truth, and for what purpose. The more that are aware, the less damage the BBC can do. Let us know if you get a reply.
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Post by cherenkov on Jan 25, 2012 17:24:27 GMT
I'll certainly let you know. I just wanted them to get some idea of how very angry people like us are getting with them. I can't say I felt better afterwards, I do swear when I get angry but not as bad as that as a rule.
My problem is that in order to contribute to this site I have to make myself watch programmes like Newsnight even though they usually make me cross, leading to the temptation to blast a hostile email in their direction.
More focus on bad news today, no mention today of Nick Clegg visiting MacDonalds to congratulate them on their anticipated creation of 2,500 jobs for young people, though it was mentioned briefly once yesterday at lunchtime and then dropped.
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Post by carl1960 on Jan 25, 2012 17:42:56 GMT
To be honest Cher I don't complain about the BBc because I don't watch it as much as I used to, once upon a time I would watch Newsnight almost every night but now it's once in a blue moon. Unless it's on and I can't be bothered to reach for the remote I'll only watch it when they are going to put an extra distortion on issues for example abbot's racist remarks (now forgotten of course, but not by me) immigration, islam etc. You will find complaints result in the same pro-forma reply and I do it on the basis , however misguided, that they will be aware at least one person doesn't fall for the crap that spouts from them. I went to the petrol station today, not because of "EXPECT PRICE RISES" but because it was empty, much to my suprise there were not big queues. Maybe people are getting wise or maybe people can't afford the £50+ to fill their tanks. Almost always a sourch of distortion Newround, I was dozing and the remote was out of reach. Slight concern possibly at Scottish devolution asone of the "reporters" commented it could even mean the end of the BBc so as they say every cloud has a silver lining. Also on Monday, I was waiting to see if there was a repeat of the item (there wasn't) , the return of the return of ricketts story but with a slightly different angle on the report.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Jan 25, 2012 18:52:39 GMT
I agree with you Cher that it is important for those concerned at the BBC to know how angry people are getting with them, better sooner than later, but if your complaint doesn't reach those that need to know it, because it's been binned at the bottom of the totem pole, then that can only add to your frustration. Apart from Question Time and whatever smatterings I get on Radio4 when I'm driving, if the time coincides with a news programme, I have to admit I avoid subjecting myself to BBC output any more than I have to. As you will have seen most of their coverage I highlight is from their website. So you have my admiration at your dedication, and I really hope you can find a place within yourself to be able to analyse their output without it causing the anger as it does. But I know myself how difficult that can be at times. As the saying goes - 'let's not get mad, let's get even. Carl is there a pun intended? '...the return of ricketts story but with a slightly different angle on the report.'
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Post by thehighlandrebel on Jan 25, 2012 20:47:46 GMT
'Apart from Question Time and whatever smatterings I get on Radio4 when I'm driving'
Always bear the mathematical law in mind though Teddy.
Driving + Radio 4 = road rage squared
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Post by Teddy Bear on Jan 26, 2012 0:49:38 GMT
;D
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Post by cherenkov on Jan 26, 2012 10:43:01 GMT
Don't tell the Iranians, they'll probably try to make a weapon of mass destruction our of it!
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Post by Teddy Bear on Jan 26, 2012 14:10:40 GMT
Judging by how the BBC report already about militant Islam, I'd say the Iranians know and are taking full advantage of it.
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Post by carl1960 on Jan 26, 2012 23:20:57 GMT
So despite possible PRICE RISES & SHORTAGES the story on the refinery seems to have been buried. Which means I'll have to go digging in a week or so to find out what is happening.
Lots of stories about schools today from ex Military personnel to schools failing the kids. Funny I thought kids were getting more clever. I did note a different make up of the class in the video depending on good/bad or maybe it's just my imagination. I also note the Rev Magumba (28 bogus immigrant weddings) didn't make the 10 O'clock news although Biased North west ran it. Instead the 10 O'clock went for RBS bonus (we own over 80% if you didn't know you were reminded at least three times. Oh and a woman who wanted them to film her having her PIP breast implants removed. After all that no time for the Rev oh and the headless burning body just discovered
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Post by carl1960 on Jan 27, 2012 12:28:46 GMT
The roundabout of news spins on breackfast BBc today it's BANKS (again). First RBS boss bonus - did I mention WE own 81% of it ... Then of to see a credit union and they only charge 27%APR, so that's more than double what the "evil" banks are charging (no mention of that), and also no mention of what the intrest is on your savings. I'm slighly curious but I really can't be bothered to look it up-will it be more than the "evil" banks. Oh look who they are filming talking about saving their money,, And then someone in the studio to be honest I don't remember there name imparting the information that the whole of the global crisis was down to the mindset of bankers bonus payments? ? Yep not irresponsible goverments spending money they didn't have. It's all down to a minute portion of the population getting obsecene amounts of money. I don't agree with the payments these people get, but then I don't agree with the amount football players or BBc presenters get either.
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Post by thehighlandrebel on Jan 27, 2012 14:13:16 GMT
No word about the boss of Barclays getting a £10,000,000 bonus or the bosses of every other major bank getting huge sums. But there again they cannot vent their anti Scottish racist bile with these. They also fail to mention that RBS investments, the branch of RBS which run up the losses, is an English company, based in London and registered in Companies House as English.
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Post by carl1960 on Jan 27, 2012 18:24:11 GMT
Oh I see the story rumbles on to the 6 O'clock news. What on earth did they think he was going to get paid? Minimum wage? Still no return to imminent FUEL PRICE Rises / FUEL SHORTAGES that I've seen anyway. I did catch the end of another snooze story about the Olympics. How many other people besides me couldn't give a stuff about the Olympics?
Highlander I imagine being the flack on RBS is more about the FACT WE OWN IT WELL 81% OF IT rather than any other motive however you may well be right I wouldn't put anything past them. P.s. now a week since my complaint about their reply to my complaint no sign of a reply yet.
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Post by cherenkov on Jan 28, 2012 18:58:47 GMT
The BBC want us, the mugs they think accept all their crap, to believe that all our global ills are entirely the fault of the bankers! No one else is responsible, especially Gordon Brown, Alistair Darling and Tony Blair of course!
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