Post by Teddy Bear on Feb 20, 2007 1:17:23 GMT
Consider that in the last 24 hours, bombs in Thailand, Iraq, and India have killed hundreds of innocent people, not to mention numerous conflicts going on in the world today - who do you think is the commonest link is to these incidents?
Now if each of you think about those likeliest behind these atrocities, as well as the almost daily perpetration of them worldwide, their purpose and objectives, how optimistic are you on a scale of 1 to 10 that the West can 'bridge' the differences and unite in some way with Islam in the future? (1 = None, 10 = Very)
Keeping this figure in mind, what would you think if you read that a recent supposed comprehensive BBC poll in 27 countries has determined 'Poll sees hope in West-Islam ties'
Really?
Well if you're like me you'd surely want to know how they come to the conclusion that Most people believe common ground exists between the West and the Islamic world despite current global tensions, a BBC World Service poll suggests.
In a survey of people in 27 countries, an average of 56% said they saw positive links between the cultures. and also says The most positive respondents came from Western nations, with 78% of Italians, 77% of Britons and 73% of Canadians saying it is possible to find common ground.
Could this be true?
The BBC poll asked approximately 1,000 people in each of 27 countries three questions about their interpretation of the world they live in.
Most expressed the belief that ongoing clashes could be resolved without violent conflict.
Sounds incredible - at least until one delves a little further into what this poll actually asks the participants, and what is actually determined.
For example, if you were to be asked "Is it possible an asteroid could hit the earth at some point in the future and totally destroy it?" you probably would think it is possible, even if unlikely, and would answer in the affirmative. If they asked a hundred people the same question there's a good possibility that at least 90% would answer similarly. However, it would be erroneous to deduce from this that 'most people are pessimistic and believe that they could be hit by an asteroid'.
But this is precisely what the BBC have done.
They have asked 3 questions
From the answers to this question, the BBC concluded that
It is possible to find common ground, it is possible the earth will be struck by an asteroid. It does not mean 56% believe common ground will be found.
Thinking about the tensions between Islam and the West—do you think they arise more from differences of religion and culture or from conflicts about political power and interests?
As far as the purpose of Islamic strategy goes, I don't see the difference here. The despots running these regimes authorize religion to be used in brainwashing their subjects.
Would you say that the current global tensions between Islam and the West are caused more by
01 Fundamental differences between these two cultures as a whole
02 An intolerant Muslim minority
03 An intolerant Western minority
04 Intolerant minorities on both sides[/i][/blockquote]
To which the BBC conclude
If I don't want to live under Sharia law, am I classified as an 'intolerant minority'?
In BBC land, the fact of daily bombings and a policy of ethnic cleansing of other faiths in many countries round the world, caused mainly by fundamentalist Muslims, does not mean the West thinks it will be solved by an inevitable conflict. After all, these militants might just decide to accept living side by side with all other societies in a totally peaceful manner.
- I think not, but I already understand BBC bias enough to know why they're spreading this fallacy.
Now if each of you think about those likeliest behind these atrocities, as well as the almost daily perpetration of them worldwide, their purpose and objectives, how optimistic are you on a scale of 1 to 10 that the West can 'bridge' the differences and unite in some way with Islam in the future? (1 = None, 10 = Very)
Keeping this figure in mind, what would you think if you read that a recent supposed comprehensive BBC poll in 27 countries has determined 'Poll sees hope in West-Islam ties'
Really?
Well if you're like me you'd surely want to know how they come to the conclusion that Most people believe common ground exists between the West and the Islamic world despite current global tensions, a BBC World Service poll suggests.
In a survey of people in 27 countries, an average of 56% said they saw positive links between the cultures. and also says The most positive respondents came from Western nations, with 78% of Italians, 77% of Britons and 73% of Canadians saying it is possible to find common ground.
Could this be true?
The BBC poll asked approximately 1,000 people in each of 27 countries three questions about their interpretation of the world they live in.
Most expressed the belief that ongoing clashes could be resolved without violent conflict.
Sounds incredible - at least until one delves a little further into what this poll actually asks the participants, and what is actually determined.
For example, if you were to be asked "Is it possible an asteroid could hit the earth at some point in the future and totally destroy it?" you probably would think it is possible, even if unlikely, and would answer in the affirmative. If they asked a hundred people the same question there's a good possibility that at least 90% would answer similarly. However, it would be erroneous to deduce from this that 'most people are pessimistic and believe that they could be hit by an asteroid'.
But this is precisely what the BBC have done.
They have asked 3 questions
Thinking about the relationship between Muslim and Western cultures do you think that violent conflict is inevitable or that it is possible to find common ground?
01 Violent conflict is inevitable
02 Possible to find common ground
From the answers to this question, the BBC concluded that
The idea that violent conflict is inevitable between Islam and the West is mainly rejected by Muslims, non-Muslims and Westerners alike. While more than a quarter of all respondents (28%) think that violent conflict is inevitable, twice as many (56%) believe that “common ground can be found.”
It is possible to find common ground, it is possible the earth will be struck by an asteroid. It does not mean 56% believe common ground will be found.
Thinking about the tensions between Islam and the West—do you think they arise more from differences of religion and culture or from conflicts about political power and interests?
As far as the purpose of Islamic strategy goes, I don't see the difference here. The despots running these regimes authorize religion to be used in brainwashing their subjects.
Would you say that the current global tensions between Islam and the West are caused more by
01 Fundamental differences between these two cultures as a whole
02 An intolerant Muslim minority
03 An intolerant Western minority
04 Intolerant minorities on both sides[/i][/blockquote]
To which the BBC conclude
The poll also reveals that most people see the problems arising from intolerant minorities and not the cultures as a whole. While 26 percent believe fundamental differences in cultures are to blame, 58 percent say intolerant minorities are causing the conflict – with most of these (39% of the full sample) saying that the intolerant minorities are on both sides.
If I don't want to live under Sharia law, am I classified as an 'intolerant minority'?
In BBC land, the fact of daily bombings and a policy of ethnic cleansing of other faiths in many countries round the world, caused mainly by fundamentalist Muslims, does not mean the West thinks it will be solved by an inevitable conflict. After all, these militants might just decide to accept living side by side with all other societies in a totally peaceful manner.
- I think not, but I already understand BBC bias enough to know why they're spreading this fallacy.