NY Bomb plot - Who's the real victim? Remember 7/7

[djfearross]

The BBC are at it again, painting the Muslims as the real victims in all of this.

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8662989.stm

"M Ilyas Khan
BBC News
Mohib Banda, Pakistan

There is a sense of shock in the village of Mohib Banda near Peshawar, where Faisal Shahzad's family comes from.
Faisal Shahzad's father is a big success story for the villagers because he was a fighter pilot who rose to the position of air vice marshal in the Pakistan air force.

In general, most people don't believe that his son did what he is accused of doing in New York. They say the family is too educated and well-bred.

Very few people actually know Faisal Shahzad - some haven't seen him for years, many have never met him. Those few villagers I met who did know Faisal Shahzad said they had seen changes in his personality in the past three years following his marriage. They say he grew a beard and became more withdrawn and quiet."

The BBC will try to paint Peshwar as a quite region and than he was radicalised in the US. But is this true? Of course not, the BBC itself has reported on countless 'militant' activity in that area.

A list of terrorist activity in the Peshwar area can be found here from this year alone, of course not mentioned by the BBC;
www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/pakistan/nwfp/datasheet/peshawar_incident.htm

Mr Malik told the BBC that his country was not embarrassed by the revelation as the incident was part of an insurgent campaign against Pakistan.

"This unfortunate incident, having been done under the name (of Pakistan) or by a Pakistani will definitely bring a bad name to Pakistan, for which we are worried," he said.

Did Pakistan have a good name before this? Why has the BBC not mentioned
'Pakistan saw 3,021 deaths in terrorist attacks in in 2009'
www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/11/pakistan-militant-violence-death-toll

Another story with the BBC leaping to his defence;

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8663188.stm
US terror arrest leaves Pakistani villagers stunned
This article must be a joke, the BBC even reported on someone who said it was a 'probably an American "conspiracy" against Pakistan.'

Why hasn't the BBC made any connection to the 5 US Nationals that were arrested in Pakistan less than 6months ago???!!!
Why try to angle to article to make it look like a one-off when it clearly isn't?

[Teddy Bear]

You're quite right DJ.
I notice another article where the BBC reveals a number of terrorist attacks in the US since 9/11 has a picture under one of the stories with the caption Most recent US terror attempts were plotted by US citizens or legal residents and only uses the word Muslim once, without saying that this had anything to do with the motive.

Just goes to show that for the BBC sometimes it's useful to use the word 'Asian' to conceal those of Muslim descent who perpetrate crimes, and at other times Nationals or legal residents does the same job.

[djfearross]

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/south_asia/10315243.stm

Shahzad case puts Pakistani-Americans in spotlight


Monday, 21 June 2010

Shops in Brooklyn's "Little Pakistan" have signs in Urdu and carry Asian products Faisal Shahzad's arrest on suspicion of attempting to bomb Times Square prompted another wave of speculation about homegrown terrorism in the US. Ahead of his arraignment in court, the BBC's Philippa Thomas reports on the fallout in America's largest Pakistani community, in Brooklyn, New York.

There isn't much about "Little Pakistan" that Mohammed Razvi doesn't know.

Mohammed changed his name to "Moe" after the 11 September 2001 terror attacks, in the wake of the wave of distrust that hit young Muslim men across America.

He stopped trying to run half a dozen businesses at once.

Mr Razvi's organisation offers help and legal advice to new Pakistani arrivals Instead, he began to organise his community of tens of thousands of South Asian immigrants, spread across a rundown neighbourhood of Brooklyn just a few miles south of Manhattan.

Today, Mohammed Razvi's COPO, the Council of Peoples Organisation, is a nerve centre for new arrivals.

He calls it Pakistan's "Ellis Island" - a reference to the famous centre below the Statue of Liberty where immigrants flooded inwards a century ago.

The council dispenses help ranging from legal advice to language classes.

And Mr Razvi urges his neighbours to fill in their US census forms, to help the community get better funding. "Don't be afraid of the knock on the door," he says.

'Test for Muslims'

But a few blocks down Coney Island Avenue, past rows of storefronts with signs written in Urdu and stocks of Asian produce, I heard from one local imam that people are afraid.

Imam Sakhawat Hussain says Muslims in the US face testing times Imam Sakhawat Hussain remembers thousands leaving - some deported - after 9/11.

He says that as soon as he heard that Faisal Shahzad had been arrested over the attempted Times Square bombing, he "knew this would be a test for the Muslims".

Imam Hussain says he tells his community - especially the older generations - that they have to be seen to be loyal Americans. They need to be prepared to speak out.

We heard from shopkeepers, barbers, parents in the street, that everyone feels somewhat on edge.

But, equally, everyone stresses that the suspect, Faisal Shahzad - who came to the US aged 19 - is not "one of them".

This, for example, was Moe Razvi's response, voiced in his broad Brooklyn accent. "Homegrown terrorism? Fugeddaboudit!"

'Two worlds'

For young men of Pakistani origin across the US, it is a tense time.

Continue reading the main story
There's a maelstrom of negative imagery about us, not necessarily about Pakistanis, but Muslims, South Asians in general, and it's up to us to shine a light through that
Imran Sheikh

Parwaz Playhouse theatre group
The feeling of being under scrutiny is particularly strange for those who have grown up in the famous American melting pot - perhaps as 'native New Yorkers' or 'Jersey Boys' - like twenty-something actor Imran Sheikh, whom I met in Manhattan just minutes from Times Square.

Imran is a founder member of Parwaz Playhouse, which calls itself the first major Pakistani-American theatre company. It showcases Pakistani-American writers, actors and directors.

When I met the group in rehearsal, Imran agreed straight away that "there is a spotlight on us".

He went on: "There's a maelstrom of negative imagery about us, not necessarily about Pakistanis, but Muslims, South Asians in general, and it's up to us to shine a light through that."

The Parwaz Playhouse showcases work by Pakistani-Americans Imran and his fellow actors, male and female, agree it can be hard to describe their own identity, to decide where Pakistan ends and America begins.

They use phrases like "straddling two worlds". They talk about adopting one persona with their parents and another with their peers.

But their predicament was summed up neatly by Imran's fellow actor Adeel Ahmed, as we sat outside after rehearsal, a few blocks from the scene where the smoking car was dumped in May.

"Here's a fact that's often overlooked in the mainstream media," said Adeel.

"We're just as afraid as everyone else. I step on the subway, and I'm afraid someone's going to blow ME up."

He paused for a moment. "It's hard. It's hard to explain that to people."
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Note from the article, that nothing has actually happened to these people. Not one thing, not one example of actual discrimination. Which is more than can be said for beheadings of Christians and slaughter of infidel women and children in Islamic Countries which the BBC refuses to report on.

Also notice some of the BS, "Mohammed changed his name to "Moe" after the 11 September 2001 terror attack" - Moe is nick name! Many Muslims go by the nick name "Moe". I doubt very much if this has been officially changed, rather than he may prefer to be called by this..

[Teddy Bear]

I notice the BBC ran this article on their 'South-Asia' pages and not those of 'Americas'. They obviously felt Americans weren't quite ready to see their 'Asian-American brethren as quite the victims in all this. Unlike those of us in the UK who have gotten used to tolerating this kind of turn around, and ending up beating our breasts in guilt for making them target us.

[djfearross]

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/world_news_america/8848009.stm

Pakistan battles image problem in New York

Page last updated at 09:01 GMT, Friday, 23 July 2010 10:01 UK

Pakistan battles image problem in New York
AdvertisementIn New York, Pakistan's UN ambassador is taking outreach to a whole new level.

The job usually comes with its fair share of conferences and diplomatic dinners but it is not everyday that an outdoor music celebration is in that mix.

Barbara Plett reports from New York where the Pakistani community has been challenging perceptions with a Sufi festival, held to counter the recent bomb scare in Times Square.

[djfearross]

Once again, the true victims in all of this are the Muslims?!
Of course, they interview one Muslims and one non-Muslim, but that means Muslims to the BBC favourite pet religion.

27 July 2011 Last updated at 23:33 GMT
Norway's Muslim immigrants ponder future
By Richard Galpin

BBC News, Oslo
Some immigrants say they did not feel welcome in Norway - even before Friday's attacks

Outside the courthouse in the Norwegian capital, Oslo, on Monday morning, amid the hordes of journalists and native Norwegians, stood several groups of immigrants from Somalia and Kenya, curious like everyone else to know what was happening inside.

Anders Behring Breivik, the man who has admitted carrying out the unprecedented killing spree last Friday in which at least 76 people died, was making his first appearance before a judge.

The car bombing in Oslo and the shooting of scores of young men and women on an island nearby, were carried out in the name of an extreme racist and Islamaphobic ideology, with the ultimate goal of reversing Muslim migration to Europe.

But instead of attacking Muslims directly, he launched his meticulously planned assault on what he saw as the root cause of the "problem" - the governing Labour party and its liberal immigration policies.

When the attack began last Friday afternoon with a huge car-bomb detonated outside the main government buildings, Norway's Muslim community braced itself for the worst, assuming that what had happened was the work of Islamist militants.

It was an assumption made by many around the world.

Short-lived relief

Mehtab Afsar, secretary-general of the Islamic Council of Norway, was leading a delegation abroad when he started receiving phone calls from Oslo from frightened members of the Muslim community.

"We heard some Muslims had already been beaten up in Oslo," he said, "and women who were scared phoned me asking for help.

"I was just hoping it was not true."

Hassan Ali

Somali immigrant

For all the Muslims in Norway - who now number more than 100,000 people in total - there was a strange sense of relief when it became clear the attacks were not part of the al-Qaeda-inspired "global jihad".

Instead it was a man with blond hair and fair skin, a thoroughbred Norwegian who had the desire and ability to kill on a scale never before seen in Norway.

And yet the respite was short-lived as the perverse ideology behind Mr Breivik's actions starting filtering through.

Standing near the courthouse for much of Monday was Hassan Ali, who arrived in Norway 12 years ago after fleeing the civil war in his home country, Somalia.

Since he arrived in the late 1990s, the number of Somalis has increased rapidly and now stands at more than 27,000.

While Hassan Ali feels more vulnerable now following the attacks, he is not at all surprised by what has happened.

He argues that hostility towards immigrants has been growing steadily in Norway over the past decade and blames the rise of right-wing parties in parliament, particularly the Progress Party, or FrP, which now holds the second-largest number of seats.

"This mad man (Anders Behring Breivik) has been brain-washed by the far right party (FrP)... and has been following its ideology... and he needed to do something," he said.

"The FrP was attacking the Labour party because they were bringing Muslims to this country and defending their rights, their workplace and social rights."

Mr Breivik was a member of the party for four years but the FrP denies it influenced him, saying his actions and beliefs are contrary to its policies and value-system.

Negative attitudes

The Somalis feel particularly vulnerable as they are not as well established as other Muslim communities such as the Pakistanis, some of whom came to Norway in search of work more than 40 years ago.

"Over the last three years we have felt we are not welcome here," says Hassan Ali.

"Every Sunday the papers are writing only negative things about the Somalis. People are leaving and more will leave as the pressure builds up."

Members of other immigrant communities are also concerned about what they say is the negative attitude towards them.

Kenneth, who came to Norway from Kenya six years ago, says he was on a plane when the attacks took place.

"The first thing someone said was that it was an immigrant and immigration should be stopped."

The government admits that opposition to immigration has been growing here as in other European countries, but holds out the hope that last Friday's attacks could bring a greater sense of unity across the nation.

On Tuesday the minister for children's equality and social inclusion, Audun Lysbakken, held meetings with Muslim community leaders in Oslo.

"I do hope that in the terrible things we now experience," he said, "we may gather some new sense of solidarity, and create an even more tolerant society."

Now for the real facts;
The population of Muslims Norway immigrants is increasingly NOT decreasing as the article tries to imply by 'People are leaving and more will leave as the pressure builds up'.

If these Somalians are genuine Asylum Seekers, surely it is better there than in Somalia? No questions asked though if they'd return to Somalia.

Richard Galpin - Guess what newspaper he used to write for??

[Teddy Bear]

In answer to your final question, I haven't looked it up but I'll take a guess at the Guardian or Independent

Whenever a Muslim that supposedly has integrated into our society says stuff like this 'While Hassan Ali feels more vulnerable now following the attacks, he is not at all surprised by what has happened.

He argues that hostility towards immigrants has been growing steadily in Norway over the past decade and blames the rise of right-wing parties in parliament, particularly the Progress Party, or FrP, which now holds the second-largest number of seats.

"This mad man (Anders Behring Breivik) has been brain-washed by the far right party (FrP)... and has been following its ideology... and he needed to do something," he said.

"The FrP was attacking the Labour party because they were bringing Muslims to this country and defending their rights, their workplace and social rights."' I know this Muslim has an agenda.

First off any Muslim who has truly integrated and understands our society would know exactly why there are many within it who fear and loathe what the extremists Muslims are doing in the world. They represent the antithesis of whatever ideals our society is trying to achieve, which is precisely why many within our society don't buy into the 'multicultural' propaganda with those groups that make it impossible to integrate with.

If the BBC weren't so busy trying to crawl up the backsides of these fundamentalist types they would understand this for themselves. Instead they seek them out to use as further propaganda, and insist WE are not tolerant enough.

It is the BBC that create the likes of Breivik and his ilk precisely because this is the line they keep pushing. In the same way that Paxman was doing his best to dismiss the concerns of the EDL representative on Newsnight a few evenings ago, and show him up as some kind of racist. highlighted exactly why people like Breivik go crazy, since that's the only way to make themselves heard. The EDL guy tried to make that clear to Paxman, but he was deaf to it.



The brainwashing that is really going on is first with the fundamental Muslims that populate this planet, and then the BBC staff that believe they are pursuing the best course with their agenda, and then the public that are taking in by it.

I have no doubt there will be more 'Breiviks' appearing given the existing dynamics of our society.

[djfearross]

Yep. I noticed Paxman once again tried to use Facebook as his reference whilst Tommy (I think he's called) constantly (and rightfully so) used the actual Manifest as his reference.

The fact that the BBC got the EDL leader on the show clearly shows a bias. They are looking to blame ANYONE who against the Islamamifcation of the UK for the terrorists attack in Norway.