Post by Teddy Bear on Nov 9, 2011 19:58:54 GMT
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Stupid people are dangerous, most especially when they have great power. In this case I'm not only talking about Iran, but the BBC.
There is no question that if Iran succeeds in developing a nuclear weapon it might well mean the end of the world as we know it. There is nobody on the planet that will not be affected in some way, and none I can think of for the better.
One scenario is that Iran tries to use it on Israel, which it has already threatened to do, among other targets. Besides the devastation that a war here would create, there is also the 'fall-out' of any oil presently coming from this area, which is most of the worlds oil, being rendered unusable because of the radioactivity that would be present. This alone would be catastrophic for the West. Saudi Arabia is well aware of this which is why it has an 'under the table' agreement to allow Israeli jets to use Saudi airspace in the event of a strike by Israel against Iran.
There is now increasing evidence that Iran is very close to having this weapon, so whatever the world does now to manage or avoid this threat is perhaps one of the most important actions that will affect our future.
There is no doubt, judging by its reporting to date, that the BBC wants the Islamic nations to overthrow Israel, and that the BBC by them would be recognised for having contributed to it. This is what it sees as BBC expansion in the world. This is the stupidity that I referred to, as they haven't really understood what would happen to them should the Islamic world dominate, apart from the nuclear scenario I described earlier, which would as much be the end for them as anybody else. That's without taking into account what China, which is in a win-win situation, would be doing throughout this scenario?
Since Iran first announced its intentions, this time has been coming. Now its increasingly imminent, how the BBC keeps its audience informed is increasingly imperative.
So what do we see today?
The BBC even shows an implosion device to trigger a nuclear bomb, presumably in case Iran hasn't got it right.
What the BBC is not telling you, and far more importantly, is the vested financial and political interest for Russia to be against further sanctions, as well as China. Instead it tries to make the reader believe that it is only (paranoid) Israel who has concerns, and by inference it is influencing other nations to take (unnecessary) action (we know how the Jews control the world :
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The BBC did something very similar prior to the Iraq invasion when it didn't report on the financial interests of France and Germany, who were most vocal opposing any regime or status change there.
This is WAY bigger than Saddam. If the BBC really can't see greater sense, it is a part of the problem that will be catastrophic.
There is no question that if Iran succeeds in developing a nuclear weapon it might well mean the end of the world as we know it. There is nobody on the planet that will not be affected in some way, and none I can think of for the better.
One scenario is that Iran tries to use it on Israel, which it has already threatened to do, among other targets. Besides the devastation that a war here would create, there is also the 'fall-out' of any oil presently coming from this area, which is most of the worlds oil, being rendered unusable because of the radioactivity that would be present. This alone would be catastrophic for the West. Saudi Arabia is well aware of this which is why it has an 'under the table' agreement to allow Israeli jets to use Saudi airspace in the event of a strike by Israel against Iran.
There is now increasing evidence that Iran is very close to having this weapon, so whatever the world does now to manage or avoid this threat is perhaps one of the most important actions that will affect our future.
There is no doubt, judging by its reporting to date, that the BBC wants the Islamic nations to overthrow Israel, and that the BBC by them would be recognised for having contributed to it. This is what it sees as BBC expansion in the world. This is the stupidity that I referred to, as they haven't really understood what would happen to them should the Islamic world dominate, apart from the nuclear scenario I described earlier, which would as much be the end for them as anybody else. That's without taking into account what China, which is in a win-win situation, would be doing throughout this scenario?
Since Iran first announced its intentions, this time has been coming. Now its increasingly imminent, how the BBC keeps its audience informed is increasingly imperative.
So what do we see today?
Russia rules out new Iran sanctions over nuclear report
Russia has ruled out supporting fresh sanctions against Iran, despite a UN report that says Tehran may be trying to develop nuclear weapons.
France and the US both said they would pursue new sanctions against Iran in the wake of the IAEA report.
Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu said the report showed the need for the world to stop Iran developing nuclear weapons.
The US and its allies suspect Iran of trying to develop a nuclear bomb, which Tehran denies.
The Iranian government insists that its nuclear programme is for peaceful means.
Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Gennady Gatilov told Interfax news agency that extra sanctions "will be seen in the international community as an instrument for regime change in Iran".
"That approach is unacceptable to us, and the Russian side does not intend to consider such proposals."
The Russian foreign ministry later issued another statement saying that the report "does not contain fundamentally new information".
However, Mr Netanyahu accused Iran of endangering world peace.
"The significance of the report is that the international community must bring about the cessation of Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons which endanger the peace of the world and of the Middle East," he said in a statement.
"The IAEA [International Atomic Energy Agency] report corroborates the position of the international community, and of Israel that Iran is developing nuclear weapons," Mr Netanyahu added.
The IAEA said it had information indicating Iran had carried out tests "relevant to the development of a nuclear explosive device".
The report - published on the Institute for Science and International Security website - says the research includes computer models that could only be used to develop a nuclear bomb trigger.
It documents alleged Iranian work on the kind of implosion device that would be needed to detonate a nuclear weapon.
On Wednesday, a defiant Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said his country would not budge "one iota" from its nuclear programme.
He said the report was based on "empty claims" provided by the US.
"Why do you damage the [UN] agency's dignity because of America's invalid claims?" he said in a televised speech.
Addressing the US he added: "We will not build two bombs in the face of your 20,000. We will develop something that you cannot respond to, which is ethics, humanity, solidarity and justice.
"You should know that no enemy of the Iranian people has ever tasted victory."
'Additional pressure'
French Foreign Minister Alain Juppe said the seriousness of the report warranted a meeting of the UN Security Council.
"If Iran refuses to conform to the demands of the international community and refuses any serious co-operation, we stand ready to adopt, with other willing countries, sanctions on an unprecedented scale," he told French radio.
Mr Juppe said tough sanctions were needed to "prevent Iran from continuing to obtain resources that allow it to pursue its activities in violation of all international rules".
A senior US official said Washington would consult with partners on "additional" pressure and sanctions on Tehran.
Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: "We don't need an atomic bomb"
"We don't take anything off the table when we look at sanctions. We believe there is a broad spectrum of action we could take," the official said, quoted by AFP news agency.
The EU said the report "seriously aggravates" existing concerns.
"Overall these findings strongly indicate the existence of a fully-fledged nuclear weapons development programme in Iran," said a spokeswoman for EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton.
Baroness Ashton represents six world powers - the UK, China, France, Germany, Russia and the US - in stalled negotiations with Iran over its uranium enrichment programme.
The BBC's Kim Ghattas in Washington says China is also unlikely to support further sanctions against Iran.
Russia has ruled out supporting fresh sanctions against Iran, despite a UN report that says Tehran may be trying to develop nuclear weapons.
France and the US both said they would pursue new sanctions against Iran in the wake of the IAEA report.
Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu said the report showed the need for the world to stop Iran developing nuclear weapons.
The US and its allies suspect Iran of trying to develop a nuclear bomb, which Tehran denies.
The Iranian government insists that its nuclear programme is for peaceful means.
Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Gennady Gatilov told Interfax news agency that extra sanctions "will be seen in the international community as an instrument for regime change in Iran".
"That approach is unacceptable to us, and the Russian side does not intend to consider such proposals."
The Russian foreign ministry later issued another statement saying that the report "does not contain fundamentally new information".
Analysis
Jonathan Marcus
BBC defence & diplomatic correspondent
The focus moves to the diplomatic arena - the US and its allies eager to use the IAEA's report to prompt a new and tougher round of sanctions against Tehran.
French Foreign Minister Alain Juppe's position is typical - the issue should go to the UN Security Council, he says, adding that Paris is ready to adopt "unprecedented" sanctions against Iran.
But the Russians take an opposite view. Furious at the detailed material published by the IAEA which they believe will simply back Iran into a corner, the Russian deputy foreign minister made it clear that Moscow will not back additional economic sanctions.
China is fast becoming one of Iran's main trading partners. Its support will be crucial if pressure is to be ramped up on Iran but don't hold your breath. Beijing, with its huge thirst for energy, simply does not see this issue in the same way as Washington.
However, Mr Netanyahu accused Iran of endangering world peace.
"The significance of the report is that the international community must bring about the cessation of Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons which endanger the peace of the world and of the Middle East," he said in a statement.
"The IAEA [International Atomic Energy Agency] report corroborates the position of the international community, and of Israel that Iran is developing nuclear weapons," Mr Netanyahu added.
The IAEA said it had information indicating Iran had carried out tests "relevant to the development of a nuclear explosive device".
The report - published on the Institute for Science and International Security website - says the research includes computer models that could only be used to develop a nuclear bomb trigger.
It documents alleged Iranian work on the kind of implosion device that would be needed to detonate a nuclear weapon.
On Wednesday, a defiant Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said his country would not budge "one iota" from its nuclear programme.
He said the report was based on "empty claims" provided by the US.
"Why do you damage the [UN] agency's dignity because of America's invalid claims?" he said in a televised speech.
Addressing the US he added: "We will not build two bombs in the face of your 20,000. We will develop something that you cannot respond to, which is ethics, humanity, solidarity and justice.
"You should know that no enemy of the Iranian people has ever tasted victory."
'Additional pressure'
French Foreign Minister Alain Juppe said the seriousness of the report warranted a meeting of the UN Security Council.
"If Iran refuses to conform to the demands of the international community and refuses any serious co-operation, we stand ready to adopt, with other willing countries, sanctions on an unprecedented scale," he told French radio.
Mr Juppe said tough sanctions were needed to "prevent Iran from continuing to obtain resources that allow it to pursue its activities in violation of all international rules".
A senior US official said Washington would consult with partners on "additional" pressure and sanctions on Tehran.
Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: "We don't need an atomic bomb"
"We don't take anything off the table when we look at sanctions. We believe there is a broad spectrum of action we could take," the official said, quoted by AFP news agency.
The EU said the report "seriously aggravates" existing concerns.
"Overall these findings strongly indicate the existence of a fully-fledged nuclear weapons development programme in Iran," said a spokeswoman for EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton.
Baroness Ashton represents six world powers - the UK, China, France, Germany, Russia and the US - in stalled negotiations with Iran over its uranium enrichment programme.
The BBC's Kim Ghattas in Washington says China is also unlikely to support further sanctions against Iran.
The BBC even shows an implosion device to trigger a nuclear bomb, presumably in case Iran hasn't got it right.
What the BBC is not telling you, and far more importantly, is the vested financial and political interest for Russia to be against further sanctions, as well as China. Instead it tries to make the reader believe that it is only (paranoid) Israel who has concerns, and by inference it is influencing other nations to take (unnecessary) action (we know how the Jews control the world :
.The BBC did something very similar prior to the Iraq invasion when it didn't report on the financial interests of France and Germany, who were most vocal opposing any regime or status change there.
This is WAY bigger than Saddam. If the BBC really can't see greater sense, it is a part of the problem that will be catastrophic.