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Post by Teddy Bear on Nov 13, 2012 0:54:33 GMT
At first, this 'find' was related to an attempted BBC cover-up, to not reveal who from the BBC attended a seminar concerning Climate Change back in 2006. But on further examination it reveals an international organisation comprised of members with various agendas, who apparently have found the way to control or strongly influence BBC reporting. For this reason I have moved the findings to its own thread as it may well be dynamite. I don't know how much licence payers money the BBC has spent so far on legal fees to avoid naming those who attended this seminar in 2006, but in a fantastic scoop, a blogger on the net has managed to obtain this information by knowing where to look. I'll include the names below, they might be useful to cross link in the future. Now for Balen ;D (hat-tip GCooper/Alan)
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Post by Teddy Bear on Nov 13, 2012 1:52:18 GMT
What’s also interesting is to see the members of the IBT – the people who have run the various seminars that the BBC have been attending since 2004Now how might they have influenced BBC reporting over the years? IBT is a membership based organisation. Our members determine our strategy, mission and vision. They come from a range of organisations who work in issues related to development, the environment and human rights. IBT is managed by a Board of Trustees who are all elected members.
We are always keen to extend our membership – since one of our principal activities is lobbying, the wider our membership the more effective our voice is. For further information about joining IBT contact IBT Director, Mark Galloway mark@ibt.org.uk
IBT’s current membership includes the following organisations (with links to their home page):
ActionAid Age UK Amnesty Anti-Slavery International Bond British Red Cross Buglife CAFOD Christian Aid Comic Relief Concern CRIN DEC HelpAge International Human Rights Watch IDS Int Rescue Committee UK International Service Islamic Relief Malaria Consortium Media Trust MSF Muslim Aid ONE Oxfam PANOS Plan Practical Action Progressio Raleigh International Save the Children Tearfund Traidcraft Exchange TVE UNICEF VSO WaterAid WWF Here's a list of their seminars, and their purpose as far as the BBC is involved.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Nov 13, 2012 13:44:04 GMT
Just one example, when I read this, from the Muslim Aid website, I felt like I was reading a BBC article on the subject.These member groups and seminars might explain quite a bit about BBC reporting, and why they wanted to conceal the extent of their affiliation with them. I will definitely be investigating this further. As appears to be the case, these vested interests manage to get their slant reported as news, without any or little attempt to balance or provide any other viewpoint to explain what is being reported. Directly in contravention of the BBC Charter.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Nov 13, 2012 17:21:56 GMT
Looking through some of the IBT members websites I am first struck at how many have to do with providing aid in various 3rd world countries, and for various claims. Nearly all of them feature a picture of poverty in an African, Middle Eastern or Asian setting. Since I am most familiar with the goings on in the Middle East, I look at some of those agencies with connection here, just to see what they are trying to create within and elicit from the reader. From the International Service WebsiteSo nowhere in this narrative does any Palestinian responsibility for their woes appear. While Israel is not named, it is presented as the cause of Palestinian poverty and problems. The wall, described in the last article in order to elicit as much sympathy from the reader, doesn't also focus on the fact that on the other side of the wall are different people who have to face other issues related to it. They didn't build it because they wanted to, but because they were more afraid of what was happening without it. But for Palestinian actions, the wall would not have been necessary, and they would still be allowed to work freely in Israel, supporting their families, and enjoying a standard of living that was the highest of all surrounding Arab lands. In the same way these article don't mention this, neither does the BBC. It sees only one side of the wall, and doesn't question truthfully why it was built. This paragraph is an another example The humanitarian crisis in Palestine is deepening. In recent years, thousands of Palestinians have been killed and tens of thousands injured - including many children. Palestinian homes, farmlands and businesses have been destroyed by bulldozers and tanks. Curfews and travel restrictions have resulted in an unemployment rate of over 60%. Without jobs families have no income, and they are left to struggle with crippling poverty.But who initiated the violence that led to these bulldozers and tanks? Nowhere are the Palestinians made responsible for what has subsequently happened to themselves, and this also doesn't explain how many Palestinians have become very wealthy as a result of what has happened in recent years. Clearly these people running these sites want to get money to fund themselves and whatever projects they engage in. They need people reading their stuff not to go too deep, or think too much about why the Palestinians are in this situation. But should the BBC be aiding them with their similar propaganda under the banner of fair and impartial?
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Post by Teddy Bear on Nov 13, 2012 23:45:56 GMT
The eminent Melanie Phillips has written an article on her blog examining the connection between IBT and the BBC, and believes, as do I, that this might be more damning for the BBC than the Newsnight scandal. I'm also happy to say that she mentions our site in her article. 
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Post by Teddy Bear on Nov 14, 2012 20:56:22 GMT
Tom Chivers in The Telegraph has picked up on the discovery of the names of those attending the climate change seminar. As he appears to be a greenie, he does his best to defend the BBC. It's worth reading his article to see the tactics reflecting the mindset of his type. I'll also post under this the comments I made to him, and those made to me. I won't put in the links he placed in his article, anybody wanting them can go to his article. My first comment:
What a facetious, arrogant, ignorant load of tripe! Chivers asserts that the argument for 'climate change', or global warming as it used to be called until it was found some places were getting cooler, is as one sided as the fact of the extinction of the dodo.
His 'proof' is that since we are putting more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, it has to have an effect, and if he's told the result is global warming, global cooling, climate change, or whatever else will be the flavour of the day that sustains these retards, it must be true - end of debate.
So perhaps he can explain just how this planet has gone through many changes in its history, long before human activity could be considered a factor? Or when ice caps melt here, they can be seen to be melting on Mars as well? And everybody knows Martians are green. must be the dodos sent there from Mauritius
What we see is that instead of opening the debate and looking at the real factors that affect our planet - ALL OF THEM, they seek to shove everything into convenient basket that 1) Makes a lot of profit for interested parties. 2) Makes proponents appear to be caring and considerate for the future of the planet. 3) Make themselves feel intelligent, especially knowing the national 'fair and impartial' broadcaster will back them up.
I think Chivers is in the 3rd category. Therefore he must do his best to stifle any argument to his claim
Does solar activity play a part in your calculations - you know the thing not affected by human activity? Of course not - I wonder why!
Replies to this fellhopper reply to me 1 hour ago Is it not conceivable that both man and nature may be factors in climate change? And could it be that they are working in opposite directions? The real question to answer is wether global temperatures are warmer (or cooler) than they would otherwise be without man's activity. Evidence suggests the answer is yes as there is a strong link between atmospheric CO2 and global temperatures. However manmade CO2 is only one factor of many that contributes to climate change. We will have a problem when the world enters a warming phase and human CO2 emissions exacerbate the natural trend.
Teddy123Bear reply to fellhopper 1 hour ago When the greenies start considering the questions in the same way you have phrased them fellhopper, that will make me a lot happier. There are still factors way beyond human activity that affect climate to a great extent. I dislike being taken for a mug by swindlers, and that's what I see has happened with this subject. ChilliKwok reply to fellhopper 1 hour ago Evidence of a strong link you say? What evidence? The ice core records show temperatures *lead* CO2 by 800 years. Atmospheric CO2 has increased by 7% since 2000 but temperatures have remained static. Geology tells us the Earth has already been through many natural temperature fluctuations - including the recent medieval warm period and little ice age - all without MM CO2. So where's this evidence you speak of? Some daft model that can't predict the weather next week never mind in 50 years time? Pull the other one: You're a watermellon. If it wasn't the bogus climate change scare you'd be advocating massive taxes and regulations for some other trumped up reason. fellhopper reply to Chilliwok 1 hour ago I prefer to believe science as opposed to rants on DT comments pages
Teddy123Bear reply to fellhopper 53 minutes ago Looks to me like 'science' is what ChilliKwok was giving you. What you mean is you only what the opinions that support what you want to believe in defiance of real science that looks at everything involved. That's understandable given your mindset, but I'm disappointed in you.
Then my other comment to the article: Chivers is so quick to defend the BBC for their support of an issue which makes him , and those like him, feel intelligent, he's neglected to focus on the main issues.
1. The BBC were quite happy to spend any amount of licence fee money to stifle the information that was requested - claiming 'journalistic reasons'. You know the similar excuse to pull the Savile Newsnight report, or not publish the Balen report. Despite this, a blogger was able to find this information, freely available, by just knowing where to look. Something one would think professionals would know - but then we're talking about the BBC - Those who get paid whatever, even if they don't know what they are doing.
2. The IBT website which ran this and quite a few other seminars, boasts openly about their ability to influence media output, especially that of the BBC, in support of their members. Lobbying is a heading on their website, it's what they do, and they're proud of it.
3. Anyone looking up the various members supporting IBT will see a particular thread in each of the various areas in which they have an agenda. One can also see how BBC reporting is greatly biased in reporting issues surrounding these areas in much the same direction, supporting these agendas.
More than climate change issues, this is in all probability what the BBC didn't want to be made public by revealing their complicity with IBT. The BBC has no right to be in the pocket of these various members in defiance of their remit as per their Charter.
Cover-Up - that's what they have to do, and if Chivers was a real journalist, he'd have looked into this aspect.
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Post by charmbrights on Nov 15, 2012 9:45:42 GMT
Tom Chivers in The Telegraph has picked up on the discovery of the names of those attending the climate change seminar. As he appears to be a greenie, he does his best to defend the BBC. It's worth reading his article to see the tactics reflecting the mindset of his type. ... What has been missed in this discussion, and the other one on this board is that the "respected academics" from, I agree, major institutions is that they all had grants to study "climate change" and therefore had as much of a vested interest in exaggerating it as the likes of Greenpeace.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Nov 15, 2012 17:11:52 GMT
It was one of the key points made by Maurizio in the post I inserted from him, as well as the next one by James Delingpole. They also link to many other bloggers who have also made this valid point. There are so many facets that expose a downright sinister behaviour by the BBC to be gleaned from this. It's the 'gift' that keeps on giving 
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Post by Teddy Bear on Nov 15, 2012 20:41:39 GMT
Melanie Phillips updates her article, a few posts above, which also now appears at the Daily Mailwith this: Update: I put the main points above to the BBC, and this is what they told me in response:
'There has been no censoring of climate change reporting. We have attempted to report proportionately. Indeed The BBC Trust’s science review of last year praised our coverage. The event certain bloggers have referred to was one in a series of seminars for BBC editors and managers. They were a forum for free and frank discussion of global issues and not created to produce programming nor set story direction. They involved external contributors from business, science and academia. Seminars such as this do not set editorial policy. They can over time and along with many other elements help inform our journalism through debate and access to expertise, but the setting of our editorial policies is a formal process involving BBC Boards and the BBC Trust.
'The BBC has refused disclosure on the basis that the documents were held for the purposes of journalism, art or literature, and are therefore outside the scope of the BBC’s designation under FOI Act. The Information Tribunal has unanimously upheld this. The seminar was conducted under the Chatham House Rule to enable free and frank discussion, something that is necessary for our independent journalism.
'IBT were one of a range of organisations and different voices the BBC worked with in delivering these seminars. They are no longer involved. The events were considered against our editorial guidelines and raised no issues about impartiality for the BBC or its output.'
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