Post by Teddy Bear on Nov 24, 2013 23:33:11 GMT
In the real world, the threat of Iran obtaining nuclear capability, and the use that they will put that to, is one of the most serious we face, at least that caused by human beings.
I say real world, because the BBC would have you believe that climate change is the biggest threat.
Given that they have sworn to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, along with Islamic terrorist acts committed daily worldwide, it could lead to the next world war.
Now in the latest negotiations between Iran and an international group comprising the US, the UK, Russia, China, France and Germany, a deal has been reached.
First I suggest seeing how the BBC wants their readers to understand it.
So as you can believe from this report, even right away from the headline, all is sweetness and light and everybody can relax. Everybody except for a few people like Netanyahu, who happens to be in the Mid-East and not feeling safer, and a few odd senators in the US.
There is a video included in the report of Netanyahu stating clearly why he objects to this agreement. It is below, but along with the ones of John Kerry relating how well they had all done, and the BBC 's James Reynolds relating the significance of the deal, at least in the eyes of the BBC. I doubt many will actually play them to hear it, but rely more on what the BBC told in their report.
So we get this:
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told his cabinet it was a "historic mistake" and that his country would not be bound by the agreement.
"We cannot and will not allow a regime that calls for the destruction of Israel to obtain the means to achieve this goal.
"Israel has many friends and allies, but when they're mistaken, its my duty to speak out."
Which suggests that Israel is being nervous and paranoid because in the past Iran did make some statements to that effect, but that was in the time of... well this is how the BBC puts it:
The deal comes just months after Iran elected Mr Rouhani - regarded as a relative moderate - as its new president, succeeding the hardline Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
So that's all in the past.
To get a better idea of what Netanyahu said, and identified as to what was wrong with this deal, here's what the Telegraph tell us:
So this deal is not quite the great negotiation it's presented to be, in fact if the BBC themselves chose to pour scorn on it. as no doubt many journalists will soon be doing outside the BBC, there is plenty of ammunition.
They also don;t mention the fact that Saudi Arabia, another country in the Mid-East are also not 'feeling safer' by this deal.
With an informed look at what one should know about this deal, Mid-East expert, Daniel Pipes, has this to say about it.
The parallels between this and Chamberlain's appeasement of the Nazis is something I believe will become all too apparent in the months to come. But this is the BBC way of serving society - blinkers anybody?
I say real world, because the BBC would have you believe that climate change is the biggest threat.
Given that they have sworn to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, along with Islamic terrorist acts committed daily worldwide, it could lead to the next world war.
Now in the latest negotiations between Iran and an international group comprising the US, the UK, Russia, China, France and Germany, a deal has been reached.
First I suggest seeing how the BBC wants their readers to understand it.
Iran nuclear deal makes Mid-East safer place - Kerry
The US secretary of state has said the deal reached on Sunday over Iran's nuclear programme will make Israel and the Middle East a safer place.
John Kerry was speaking after Iran agreed to curb some of its nuclear activities in return for about $7bn (£4.3bn) in sanctions relief.
Israel, however, has described the agreement as a "historic mistake".
Iran's president said its right to uranium enrichment had been recognised, but Mr Kerry denied this.
Tehran has, however, agreed to stop all enrichment above 5%.
World powers suspect Iran's nuclear programme is secretly aiming at developing a nuclear bomb - a charge Iran has consistently denied.
The deal reached overnight in Geneva will last for six months, while a permanent agreement is sought.
US President Barack Obama welcomed the deal, saying it would "help prevent Iran from building a nuclear weapon".
UK Prime Minister David Cameron said it "demonstrates how persistent diplomacy and tough sanctions can together help us to advance our national interest".
'Larger breathing space'
Mr Kerry told ABC's This Week programme that the US and Israel shared the same goal, and that the deal was a first step in making sure Iran could not have nuclear weapons.
"It leads us into the negotiation so that we guarantee that ... while we are negotiating for the tougher provisions, they will not grow the programme and their capacity to threaten Israel," he said.
"Israel will actually gain a larger breathing space in terms of the breakout capacity [to make a nuclear weapon] of Iran."
The US secretary of state added that he hoped Congress would recognise the benefits of the deal and refrain from passing new sanctions.
However, leading Republican Senator Bob Corker said he had concerns about the deal and promised to hold the administration's "feet to the fire".
"This administration is long on announcements but very short on follow-through," he said in an interview for Fox News Sunday.
Senator Charles Schumer, from President Obama's Democratic party, was also disappointed by the Geneva agreement, which he said favoured Iran.
"As for additional sanctions, this disproportionality of this agreement makes it more likely that Democrats and Republicans will join together and pass additional sanctions when we return in December," he said in a statement.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told his cabinet it was a "historic mistake" and that his country would not be bound by the agreement.
"We cannot and will not allow a regime that calls for the destruction of Israel to obtain the means to achieve this goal.
"Israel has many friends and allies, but when they're mistaken, its my duty to speak out."
The Israeli comments came as it was revealed that the US and Iran had held a series of face-to-face talks in recent months that paved the way for the agreement but were kept secret even from their allies.
The talks were personally authorised by President Obama, AP reports quoting senior US administration officials.
In a nationwide broadcast on Sunday, President Rouhani repeated that his country would never seek a nuclear weapon.
He hailed the deal, saying it met one of Iran's fundamental principles.
"No matter what interpretations are given, Iran's right to enrichment has been recognised," he said.
Tehran insists it must be allowed to enrich uranium to use in power stations.
The deal comes just months after Iran elected Mr Rouhani - regarded as a relative moderate - as its new president, succeeding the hardline Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
It has also been backed by Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who has the final say in nuclear matters.
After four days of negotiations, representatives of the so-called P5+1 group of nations - the US, the UK, Russia, China, France and Germany - reached the agreement with Iran in the early hours of Sunday.
The US secretary of state has said the deal reached on Sunday over Iran's nuclear programme will make Israel and the Middle East a safer place.
John Kerry was speaking after Iran agreed to curb some of its nuclear activities in return for about $7bn (£4.3bn) in sanctions relief.
Israel, however, has described the agreement as a "historic mistake".
Iran's president said its right to uranium enrichment had been recognised, but Mr Kerry denied this.
Tehran has, however, agreed to stop all enrichment above 5%.
World powers suspect Iran's nuclear programme is secretly aiming at developing a nuclear bomb - a charge Iran has consistently denied.
The deal reached overnight in Geneva will last for six months, while a permanent agreement is sought.
US President Barack Obama welcomed the deal, saying it would "help prevent Iran from building a nuclear weapon".
UK Prime Minister David Cameron said it "demonstrates how persistent diplomacy and tough sanctions can together help us to advance our national interest".
'Larger breathing space'
Mr Kerry told ABC's This Week programme that the US and Israel shared the same goal, and that the deal was a first step in making sure Iran could not have nuclear weapons.
Analysis
Jonathan Marcus
BBC diplomatic correspondent
Both the Americans and the Iranians appear to have come away from this interim deal smiling.
Both can say that they have received concessions but their practical effect will be limited. The real success here is that the ground has been prepared for further substantive talks.
The relief from sanctions has been targeted and specific. The US stresses that existing sanctions will continue to be enforced.
Iran is to a large extent freezing any further progress in its nuclear activities but many of its centrifuge cascades have not been operational; it has actually been limiting its enrichment work for whatever reason for some time; and the Arak facility is still some way from being operational.
So Iran is not giving up a lot, nor is it gaining a lot.
"It leads us into the negotiation so that we guarantee that ... while we are negotiating for the tougher provisions, they will not grow the programme and their capacity to threaten Israel," he said.
"Israel will actually gain a larger breathing space in terms of the breakout capacity [to make a nuclear weapon] of Iran."
The US secretary of state added that he hoped Congress would recognise the benefits of the deal and refrain from passing new sanctions.
However, leading Republican Senator Bob Corker said he had concerns about the deal and promised to hold the administration's "feet to the fire".
"This administration is long on announcements but very short on follow-through," he said in an interview for Fox News Sunday.
Senator Charles Schumer, from President Obama's Democratic party, was also disappointed by the Geneva agreement, which he said favoured Iran.
"As for additional sanctions, this disproportionality of this agreement makes it more likely that Democrats and Republicans will join together and pass additional sanctions when we return in December," he said in a statement.
Key points of the deal include:
- Iran will stop enriching uranium beyond 5%, and "neutralise" its stockpile of uranium enriched beyond this point
- Iran will give greater access to inspectors including daily access at Natanz and Fordo nuclear sites
- There will be no further development of the Arak plant which it is believed could produce plutonium
- In return, there will be no new nuclear-related sanctions for six months if Iran sticks by the accord
- Iran will also receive sanctions relief worth about $7bn (£4.3bn) on sectors including precious metals
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told his cabinet it was a "historic mistake" and that his country would not be bound by the agreement.
"We cannot and will not allow a regime that calls for the destruction of Israel to obtain the means to achieve this goal.
"Israel has many friends and allies, but when they're mistaken, its my duty to speak out."
The Israeli comments came as it was revealed that the US and Iran had held a series of face-to-face talks in recent months that paved the way for the agreement but were kept secret even from their allies.
The talks were personally authorised by President Obama, AP reports quoting senior US administration officials.
In a nationwide broadcast on Sunday, President Rouhani repeated that his country would never seek a nuclear weapon.
He hailed the deal, saying it met one of Iran's fundamental principles.
"No matter what interpretations are given, Iran's right to enrichment has been recognised," he said.
Tehran insists it must be allowed to enrich uranium to use in power stations.
The deal comes just months after Iran elected Mr Rouhani - regarded as a relative moderate - as its new president, succeeding the hardline Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
It has also been backed by Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who has the final say in nuclear matters.
After four days of negotiations, representatives of the so-called P5+1 group of nations - the US, the UK, Russia, China, France and Germany - reached the agreement with Iran in the early hours of Sunday.
So as you can believe from this report, even right away from the headline, all is sweetness and light and everybody can relax. Everybody except for a few people like Netanyahu, who happens to be in the Mid-East and not feeling safer, and a few odd senators in the US.
There is a video included in the report of Netanyahu stating clearly why he objects to this agreement. It is below, but along with the ones of John Kerry relating how well they had all done, and the BBC 's James Reynolds relating the significance of the deal, at least in the eyes of the BBC. I doubt many will actually play them to hear it, but rely more on what the BBC told in their report.
So we get this:
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told his cabinet it was a "historic mistake" and that his country would not be bound by the agreement.
"We cannot and will not allow a regime that calls for the destruction of Israel to obtain the means to achieve this goal.
"Israel has many friends and allies, but when they're mistaken, its my duty to speak out."
Which suggests that Israel is being nervous and paranoid because in the past Iran did make some statements to that effect, but that was in the time of... well this is how the BBC puts it:
The deal comes just months after Iran elected Mr Rouhani - regarded as a relative moderate - as its new president, succeeding the hardline Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
So that's all in the past.
To get a better idea of what Netanyahu said, and identified as to what was wrong with this deal, here's what the Telegraph tell us:
Israel 'utterly rejects' Iran nuclear deal
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says he "utterly rejects" the emerging nuclear agreement between western powers and Iran
Israel rejected out of hand a mooted deal between world powers and Iran, just as US Secretary of State John Kerry prepared to join nuclear talks that aim to firm up an interim agreement on the decade-old standoff.
Israel believes Iran is trying to develop a nuclear weapon, and says international pressure should be stepped up, not eased.
"I understand the Iranians are walking around very satisfied in Geneva - as well they should be because they got everything and paid nothing," Mr Netanyahu said.
"They wanted relief of sanctions after years of a gruelling sanctions regime, they got that. They're paying nothing because they are not reducing in any way their nuclear enrichment capability. So Iran got the deal of the century and the international community got a bad deal."
"This is a very bad deal and Israel utterly rejects it. And what I am saying is shared by many, many in the regions whether or not they express it publicly. Israel is not obliged by this agreement and Israel will do everything it needs to do to defend itself and to defend the security of its people," he said.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says he "utterly rejects" the emerging nuclear agreement between western powers and Iran
Israel rejected out of hand a mooted deal between world powers and Iran, just as US Secretary of State John Kerry prepared to join nuclear talks that aim to firm up an interim agreement on the decade-old standoff.
Israel believes Iran is trying to develop a nuclear weapon, and says international pressure should be stepped up, not eased.
"I understand the Iranians are walking around very satisfied in Geneva - as well they should be because they got everything and paid nothing," Mr Netanyahu said.
"They wanted relief of sanctions after years of a gruelling sanctions regime, they got that. They're paying nothing because they are not reducing in any way their nuclear enrichment capability. So Iran got the deal of the century and the international community got a bad deal."
"This is a very bad deal and Israel utterly rejects it. And what I am saying is shared by many, many in the regions whether or not they express it publicly. Israel is not obliged by this agreement and Israel will do everything it needs to do to defend itself and to defend the security of its people," he said.
So this deal is not quite the great negotiation it's presented to be, in fact if the BBC themselves chose to pour scorn on it. as no doubt many journalists will soon be doing outside the BBC, there is plenty of ammunition.
They also don;t mention the fact that Saudi Arabia, another country in the Mid-East are also not 'feeling safer' by this deal.
With an informed look at what one should know about this deal, Mid-East expert, Daniel Pipes, has this to say about it.
A Foreign-Policy Disaster
By Daniel Pipes
“For the first time in nearly a decade we have halted parts of Iran’s nuclear program,” announced a jubilant Barack Obama after the news of the just-signed Geneva six-month interim agreement with Iran.
But the American goal for the accord was that the Iranians not “advance their program” of building a uranium nuclear bomb (and perhaps a plutonium bomb too); the apparent deal exactly permits such advancement, plus grants sanctions relief to Tehran worth about $9 billion.
This wretched deal offers one of those rare occasions when comparison with Neville Chamberlain in Munich in 1938 is valid. An overeager Western government, blind to the evil cunning of the regime it so much wants to work with, appeases it with concessions that will come back to haunt it. Geneva and November 24 will be remembered along with Munich and September 29.
Barack Obama has made many foreign-policy errors in the past five years, but this is the first to rank as a disaster. Along with the health-care law, it is one of his worst-ever steps. John Kerry is a too-eager puppy looking for a deal at any price.
With the U.S. government forfeiting its leadership role, the Israelis, Saudis, and perhaps others are left to cope with a bad situation made worse. War has now become a much more likely prospect. Shame on us Americans for reelecting Barack Obama.
By Daniel Pipes
“For the first time in nearly a decade we have halted parts of Iran’s nuclear program,” announced a jubilant Barack Obama after the news of the just-signed Geneva six-month interim agreement with Iran.
But the American goal for the accord was that the Iranians not “advance their program” of building a uranium nuclear bomb (and perhaps a plutonium bomb too); the apparent deal exactly permits such advancement, plus grants sanctions relief to Tehran worth about $9 billion.
This wretched deal offers one of those rare occasions when comparison with Neville Chamberlain in Munich in 1938 is valid. An overeager Western government, blind to the evil cunning of the regime it so much wants to work with, appeases it with concessions that will come back to haunt it. Geneva and November 24 will be remembered along with Munich and September 29.
Barack Obama has made many foreign-policy errors in the past five years, but this is the first to rank as a disaster. Along with the health-care law, it is one of his worst-ever steps. John Kerry is a too-eager puppy looking for a deal at any price.
With the U.S. government forfeiting its leadership role, the Israelis, Saudis, and perhaps others are left to cope with a bad situation made worse. War has now become a much more likely prospect. Shame on us Americans for reelecting Barack Obama.
The parallels between this and Chamberlain's appeasement of the Nazis is something I believe will become all too apparent in the months to come. But this is the BBC way of serving society - blinkers anybody?