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Post by iftikhar on Aug 8, 2007 16:29:51 GMT
English Only Vs English Plus There is an increase of those children in state schools who do not come from English speaking back ground. One in seven children at primary school in England and one in ten at secondary school speak a language other than English at home. A research team from Goldsmiths concludes that using two or more languages deepens an understanding of mathematical concepts and results in a better overall performance in school. Bilingual children are able to access key concepts through both languages, giving them an advantage over monolinguals. Children who speak at least two languages actually strengthen their identities as learners and boost their cognitive development. Researchers say this finding is of particular importance for second and third generation immigrant children. It is important to “embed” mother tongues into daily activities through games, songs and incidental use, such as answering the register and giving praise and simple instructions, familiar stories can be told or acted out in their languages. In the 60s and 70s, the British education system has destroyed the home languages and the new research proved that the policy was wrong and the British education system is guilty of crime against humanity. It is very important that immigrant parents keep talking to their children in their home tongues as this will give children a valuable tool to access lessons, deepen understanding of key ideas, and enhance overall school performance. Children who led bilingual lives could access their lessons through both languages. The children in the project expressed a strong desire to use their community languages in school. Teachers were able to tap into their pupils’ full range of cultural knowledge. Children who attended mother tongues classes did better in their National Curriculum tests. Research suggests that bilingual pupils do better than those with just one language. The researcher warns that many second and third generation children are in danger of losing their bilingual skills if they do not have the chance to develop their mother tongue through their school work. Multilingual children may be allowed to use their mother tongue in mainstream classes. Rather than thinking in terms of an “English only” culture we should be promoting “English plus”. Among all the migrant children, Muslim children suffer more than others. Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models. They need to be well versed in Standard English to follow the National Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. They need to be well versed in Arabic, Urdu and other community languages to keep in touch with their cultural roots and enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry. Iftikhar Ahmad www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk
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Post by steevo on Aug 8, 2007 19:38:15 GMT
Yes, a multilingual nation is a direct extension of a multicultural one. More caring, more educationally enlightened.
Speaking as an American, as we've increasingly moved into into this direction of accepting (enforcing) Spanish into our schools and society at large, we've increasingly become (surprise) non-American. Never mind immigrant populations coming here to be a part of our culture, they come to establish their own.
As to the level of our educational success: in multilingual environments we find, for example, Spanish speaking children... guess what?... not wanting to learn English too well.
The bottom line. When the common native language is compromised an increasing fracturing of peoples takes place. I mean, if I move to Mexico who am I to demand they change the way they communicate, for me? How dare I.
Iftikhar, if you want to live in the benefits of a western democracy as a Muslim, you cannot impose yourself on their culture. If you want to live in a Muslim culture, go to a Muslim nation!
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Post by Teddy Bear on Aug 8, 2007 19:55:11 GMT
Iftikhar. other than advertising your personal cause I don't really see the purpose in posting it here.
I don't agree with your premise, as I find it extremely selfish regarding what you perceive to be Muslim interests, but has nothing to do with integrating and developing alongside the culture and society that Muslims chose to live in. It is as if you have used the tolerance and desire of this society to get a foot in the door, and now you want to take it over.
Whether or not a childs intelligence is enhanced by speaking 2 languages, the parents of that child who do not practice it, fail to integrate, fail to understand that society, and it increases the distance between both.
If you wanted a Muslim culture, WHY DID YOU COME HERE?
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Post by Teddy Bear on Aug 8, 2007 19:56:20 GMT
As I posted my reply, I see Steevo made a similar observation to myself. Why am I not surprised?
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Post by indikit on Aug 8, 2007 21:53:11 GMT
People like iftikhar are a prime example of the sort of people that the BBC have progressively hatched into this cuckoo nest that is British society. They speak the same Alice in Wonderland rhetoric they have been taught by their teachers at the BBC, meanwhile harbouring a sinister grudge against Westerners, taught by their own nefarious religion. They prey upon the gullibility and 'charity' of liberal do gooders, as a means to exploit what is on offer for their own cause.
People like him will only be happy when the primary language taught in schools is their own. And I can quite gratefully say I would fight an on the street civil war to stop this type of scum from 'intergrating' themselves into our society with the aim of intergrating us OUT of it.
Iftikhar go and preach your nonsense on the BBC 'Have Your Say' board, you'll be most welcome their. Failing that, why don't you just apply to your local government for a grant to preach your views further to us. They're handing out blank cheques to people like you.
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Post by ascendinglark on Aug 9, 2007 1:37:39 GMT
So now we know the London School of Islamics is another hysterical, irrational Islamic organization in Britain which is doing nothing more than showing deep disrespect and a disgraceful ingratitude to its host country and driving huge cultural wedges in the process.
To accuse British public schools of a "crime against humanity" for not kowtowing to the impractical and arrogant demands of the Muslim community shows a stunning lack of objectivity and context. Blowing up 3000 innocent civilians in their offices on 9/11 was a crime against humanity. Bringing terror to the good people of London in a despicable act of evil savagery was a crime against humanity. Insisting that public schools teach in one language only - the language of the country they are in - is objective, rational, practical, right.
If you want to teach Muslim kids other languages, then go ahead - in your own time and on your own dollar. Not only do you swamp the West with your demands for the unearned - jobs, housing, medical care, basic education - and not only do you promote a vicious, sub-human hatred of the West and all of its values, not only do you sit back and ignore or defend clerics who recruit and train terrorists, not only all of that but now you demand that the British taxpayers pay to teach your children languages which have absolutely no relevance to any level of British society.
Nobody has stopped you talking to your children in the "mother tongue" at home. You're in England, a free country in which you will not be tortured, imprisoned or executed by the authorities should you wish to speak to your children in a particular language or instill them with the teachings of a different religion - even religions that openly preach the destruction of non-believers. What is it about your character and your moral code that makes you ask for more, from people who are already stretched to the limit in their tolerance for a religion and a people that have brought little but tension and violence to their country?
As for this "Goldsmith" research - I don't believe a word of it. A cursory search did not reveal any such study, although I am prepared to admit it exists. Nothing that comes out of the modern university surprises me. Nothing. I've heard it all. Academics work toward an ideological agenda, no longer the indifferent pursuit of the truth. A recent "study" was released which "concluded" that companies have more economic success the more diverse they are and that it must be so that diversity has inherent value. The work was quickly shown to be full of flaws and conclusions were obviously decided upon first, on the basis that if you throw enough research money at a question with a pre-decided answer, it will come true.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Aug 9, 2007 20:58:11 GMT
Very eloquent AL I'm sure if the above comments were posted on iftikhar's website they would be instantly deleted. I also see on his site that he doesn't respond to views different than his own. I will inform him now that this post can remain as an example, but if there are future ones of this type, they will be removed. We will not tolerate this kind of abuse with no relevance to what we are focussing on, and it shows clearly the disregard and disrespect this man has for others.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Aug 9, 2007 21:12:30 GMT
By co-incidence, I had occasion to look up the You Tube postings for the excellent Channel 4 programme 'Dispatches' on Britain Under Attack. It seems appropriate to include these links here as well: Part 1Part 2Part 3Part 4Part 5Part 6
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Post by Teddy Bear on Aug 24, 2007 21:03:56 GMT
iftikhar - you've now been banned. I warned you if you attempted to post (spam) again a totally irrelevant topic to these forums it would happen. You did - now you are.
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