Post by Teddy Bear on Nov 18, 2008 17:57:03 GMT
This is exciting, I'm starting to imagine a day in the not too distant future when I don't have to think about making new entries on to this site. In the words of Arlo Guthries 'Alices Restaurant', it's going from an 'organisation to a movement' to join those who are declaring publicly they will not be paying their license fee.
Celebrities join BBC backlash after Brand and Ross scandal as more and more ask 'why SHOULD we pay licence fee'?
By Paul Revoir
Last updated at 12:54 AM on 18th November 2008
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A growing number of public figures are joining a backlash against the BBC licence fee.
Opposition to the annual levy has been stoked in recent weeks by the Jonathan Ross/Russell Brand scandal.
But there had already been widespread discontent over the threatening behaviour of licence-fee collectors and the perceived bias of the BBC.
Outrage: Opposition to the BBC licence fee has grown since the Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand radio stunt where they telephoned Andrew Sachs and made lewd remarks about his granddaughter
An array of influential names are now threatening to withhold their fee out of principal.
They include TV presenter Robin Page and journalist Charles Moore, who says he won't pay if Ross stays on the BBC payroll following his and Brand's infamous taunting of Andrew Sachs.
Rebel: Edmonds and partner Liz Davis
The ranks of licence fee 'refuseniks' already include TV presenter Noel Edmonds, and there are claims that the BBC is running scared of prosecuting those who refuse to pay the £139.50 annual levy on the grounds it is unjustified.
It has been alleged that the corporation fears creating a group of licence fee 'martyrs' if it enters into high-profile prosecutions of well-known faces.
Many ordinary members of the public say they have been the victim of 'bullyboy' tactics.
Some claim to have received more than 80 warning letters threatening court action and a possible £1,000 fine even when they do not own a TV or have paid.
Edmonds has said he has stopped paying his licence fee because of its 'threatening' advertising campaigns.
He has effectively challenged them to prosecute him after he decided to take a stand against the negative and aggressive tactics of collection.
So far he claims no action has been taken against him by TV Licensing (TVL), the organisation which manages the payments on behalf of the BBC.
Campaign: Russian dissident Vladimir Bukovsky
Last night he said: 'My point is quite simple. It is not about the value of the licence fee.
'What I object to is the BBC's lack of positivity in celebrating what they do.
'They have slipped into the zone where they have become quite sinister about the way they collect the licence fee.'
Outspoken radio host James Whale renewed his attack on the licence fee saying he 'vehemently' opposed the 'illegal tax'.
While he said he had now bought a licence fee he would not deny that in the past he had not paid it out of principal.
He also condemned the aggressive antics of the licence fee collectors, claiming his wife had been left 'upset' by the way they had behaved.
Former Russian dissident Vladimir Bukovsky decided not to renew his licence in 2002 claiming it had failed to provide fair coverage of major world issues.
Mr Bukovsky, 65, from Cambridge, said he still does not have a licence and has not been prosecuted yet.
Speaking at the weekend Mr Bukovsky said that 2,000 people who had joined his non-payment campaign had also not had any legal action against them.
He said: 'It seems the BBC didn't want to walk into a trap and make me a martyr.'
Another opponent of the fee who has not been paying it since 2002 is John Kelly, 70, of Exmouth, Devon, who is a member of the UK Independence Party.
He ripped his up in protest at what he perceived as the BBC's pro-EU bias.
Spectator columnist Charles Moore says he will not renew his licence fee of the BBC continues to employ disgraced chat show host Jonathan Ross
The Communications Act 2003 makes it an offence to install or use a 'television receiver' to get any service without a valid licence fee.
Anyone caught watching or recording TV programmes without a valid licence risks prosecution in a magistrates court and a fine of up to £1,000.
TVL claims its fleet of vans is capable of detecting the use of TV receiving equipment within 20 seconds.
If evaders refuse to pay the fine, they can be jailed. The average sentence is one week.
TVL prosecuted 151,137 people last year. It has a comprehensive database of almost 30million addresses.
One recent TVL advert - with a soundtrack of helicopter blades, barking dogs, a siren and a knock at the door - warned: 'Your town, your street, your home... it is all in our database.'
A spokesman for TVL said: 'TVL can and does prosecute people who refuse to pay the licence fee, whatever their reasons for doing so.'
Many people have contacted Mail Online to back the campaigning of those refusing to pay the licence fee.
One said they would not be paying next year if Jonathan Ross is still on the payroll.
Another said they had stopped paying for it two years ago but made a point of not watching BBC shows.
Kick in the teeth to my country and my values Charles Moore is a former editor of the Daily Telegraph, a columnist for The Spectator magazine and Margaret Thatcher's official biographer. He says:
'When my licence fee expires, I will not be renewing it. It is an unfair form of taxation.
'Although there is some force in the argument that it goes towards supporting public service broadcasting, when you see both the amount of money that is being paid to Jonathan Ross and the sort of unpleasant programmes that he makes, then you realise just how bogus that argument is.
'It is said that if you don't like it, you don't have to watch it.
'Fine, I don't like sport and I don't watch it, but I still think that it is worthwhile for the BBC to broadcast sporting events.
'However, I do not think that programmes featuring Ross and Russell Brand are worthwhile.
'It's not that I'm just not interested in their programmes, I'm insulted by them and I do not want to pay money for something I am insulted by.
'Such programmes do not live up to the BBC charter.
'In fact, they are debasing it, and the fact that the BBC refuses to acknowledge this simply proves that it is not telling the truth about it being a public service broadcaster.
'I have a television in the country, but I don't have one in my London flat.
'Yet despite this, I have been sent 30 abusive letters telling me that I am an evader and they are coming to get me.
'The £139.50 a year tax has always been indefensible in principle, and now it is intolerable in practice.
'Yes, I like large parts of Radio 4 and Radio 3. But why should this be used as blackmail by which I can only have them if I hand over much larger sums so that people like Ross can kick my country and my values in the teeth?
'My own modest contribution will be as follows.
'If Ross is still in post when my television licence next comes up for renewal, I shall keep my television, but refuse to pay the fee.
'I don't want to profit from it, so instead I shall hand over the £139.50 to Help the Aged, mainly because Ross and Brand were picking on a grandfather - namely Andrew Sachs.
'I certainly think most of the hurtful mockery that goes on is directed at older people, not only with Andrew Sachs, but the joke about the Queen on Mock The Week for example, and the denigration of old people on Little Britain.
'There's a lot of bullying and contempt shown for the old on these programmes - they think it's funny but it isn't.
'I'm not leading a campaign but I'm happy that other people are doing the same thing. I think it is a good thing to do.'
Fed up with its political correctness Robin Page is the former presenter of BBC series One Man And His Dog and chairman of the Countryside Restoration Trust. He says:
I'm fed up with all of the rubbish on the BBC, I'm fed up with the political correctness on the BBC, and I'm fed up with the politically-correct people running the BBC.
I don't see why I should be expected to pay when the BBC refuses to represent normal people and refuses to provide a broad variety of programming.
There is a profound bias against the countryside at the BBC, and even the programmes that are meant to represent the countryside such as Countryfile and SpringWatch are so politically correct that I just can't watch them.
It's not just me who thinks this, either.
There is a wide range of outrage out there, but at the moment it seems that we are being completely ignored.
I've been arrested for speaking my mind, and to be honest, I've felt quite vulnerable about not paying the licence fee in the past.
But like they say, there's strength in numbers, and if more people decide not to pay the fee, then what are they going to do?
I think it's a valid thing to refuse to pay it. If enough of us stop paying, then the Government will be forced to take action.
By Paul Revoir
Last updated at 12:54 AM on 18th November 2008
Comments (47) Add to My Stories
A growing number of public figures are joining a backlash against the BBC licence fee.
Opposition to the annual levy has been stoked in recent weeks by the Jonathan Ross/Russell Brand scandal.
But there had already been widespread discontent over the threatening behaviour of licence-fee collectors and the perceived bias of the BBC.
Outrage: Opposition to the BBC licence fee has grown since the Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand radio stunt where they telephoned Andrew Sachs and made lewd remarks about his granddaughter
An array of influential names are now threatening to withhold their fee out of principal.
They include TV presenter Robin Page and journalist Charles Moore, who says he won't pay if Ross stays on the BBC payroll following his and Brand's infamous taunting of Andrew Sachs.
Rebel: Edmonds and partner Liz Davis
The ranks of licence fee 'refuseniks' already include TV presenter Noel Edmonds, and there are claims that the BBC is running scared of prosecuting those who refuse to pay the £139.50 annual levy on the grounds it is unjustified.
It has been alleged that the corporation fears creating a group of licence fee 'martyrs' if it enters into high-profile prosecutions of well-known faces.
Many ordinary members of the public say they have been the victim of 'bullyboy' tactics.
Some claim to have received more than 80 warning letters threatening court action and a possible £1,000 fine even when they do not own a TV or have paid.
Edmonds has said he has stopped paying his licence fee because of its 'threatening' advertising campaigns.
He has effectively challenged them to prosecute him after he decided to take a stand against the negative and aggressive tactics of collection.
So far he claims no action has been taken against him by TV Licensing (TVL), the organisation which manages the payments on behalf of the BBC.
Campaign: Russian dissident Vladimir Bukovsky
Last night he said: 'My point is quite simple. It is not about the value of the licence fee.
'What I object to is the BBC's lack of positivity in celebrating what they do.
'They have slipped into the zone where they have become quite sinister about the way they collect the licence fee.'
Outspoken radio host James Whale renewed his attack on the licence fee saying he 'vehemently' opposed the 'illegal tax'.
While he said he had now bought a licence fee he would not deny that in the past he had not paid it out of principal.
He also condemned the aggressive antics of the licence fee collectors, claiming his wife had been left 'upset' by the way they had behaved.
Former Russian dissident Vladimir Bukovsky decided not to renew his licence in 2002 claiming it had failed to provide fair coverage of major world issues.
Mr Bukovsky, 65, from Cambridge, said he still does not have a licence and has not been prosecuted yet.
Speaking at the weekend Mr Bukovsky said that 2,000 people who had joined his non-payment campaign had also not had any legal action against them.
He said: 'It seems the BBC didn't want to walk into a trap and make me a martyr.'
Another opponent of the fee who has not been paying it since 2002 is John Kelly, 70, of Exmouth, Devon, who is a member of the UK Independence Party.
He ripped his up in protest at what he perceived as the BBC's pro-EU bias.
Spectator columnist Charles Moore says he will not renew his licence fee of the BBC continues to employ disgraced chat show host Jonathan Ross
The Communications Act 2003 makes it an offence to install or use a 'television receiver' to get any service without a valid licence fee.
Anyone caught watching or recording TV programmes without a valid licence risks prosecution in a magistrates court and a fine of up to £1,000.
TVL claims its fleet of vans is capable of detecting the use of TV receiving equipment within 20 seconds.
If evaders refuse to pay the fine, they can be jailed. The average sentence is one week.
TVL prosecuted 151,137 people last year. It has a comprehensive database of almost 30million addresses.
One recent TVL advert - with a soundtrack of helicopter blades, barking dogs, a siren and a knock at the door - warned: 'Your town, your street, your home... it is all in our database.'
A spokesman for TVL said: 'TVL can and does prosecute people who refuse to pay the licence fee, whatever their reasons for doing so.'
Many people have contacted Mail Online to back the campaigning of those refusing to pay the licence fee.
One said they would not be paying next year if Jonathan Ross is still on the payroll.
Another said they had stopped paying for it two years ago but made a point of not watching BBC shows.
Kick in the teeth to my country and my values Charles Moore is a former editor of the Daily Telegraph, a columnist for The Spectator magazine and Margaret Thatcher's official biographer. He says:
'When my licence fee expires, I will not be renewing it. It is an unfair form of taxation.
'Although there is some force in the argument that it goes towards supporting public service broadcasting, when you see both the amount of money that is being paid to Jonathan Ross and the sort of unpleasant programmes that he makes, then you realise just how bogus that argument is.
'It is said that if you don't like it, you don't have to watch it.
'Fine, I don't like sport and I don't watch it, but I still think that it is worthwhile for the BBC to broadcast sporting events.
'However, I do not think that programmes featuring Ross and Russell Brand are worthwhile.
'It's not that I'm just not interested in their programmes, I'm insulted by them and I do not want to pay money for something I am insulted by.
'Such programmes do not live up to the BBC charter.
'In fact, they are debasing it, and the fact that the BBC refuses to acknowledge this simply proves that it is not telling the truth about it being a public service broadcaster.
'I have a television in the country, but I don't have one in my London flat.
'Yet despite this, I have been sent 30 abusive letters telling me that I am an evader and they are coming to get me.
'The £139.50 a year tax has always been indefensible in principle, and now it is intolerable in practice.
'Yes, I like large parts of Radio 4 and Radio 3. But why should this be used as blackmail by which I can only have them if I hand over much larger sums so that people like Ross can kick my country and my values in the teeth?
'My own modest contribution will be as follows.
'If Ross is still in post when my television licence next comes up for renewal, I shall keep my television, but refuse to pay the fee.
'I don't want to profit from it, so instead I shall hand over the £139.50 to Help the Aged, mainly because Ross and Brand were picking on a grandfather - namely Andrew Sachs.
'I certainly think most of the hurtful mockery that goes on is directed at older people, not only with Andrew Sachs, but the joke about the Queen on Mock The Week for example, and the denigration of old people on Little Britain.
'There's a lot of bullying and contempt shown for the old on these programmes - they think it's funny but it isn't.
'I'm not leading a campaign but I'm happy that other people are doing the same thing. I think it is a good thing to do.'
Fed up with its political correctness Robin Page is the former presenter of BBC series One Man And His Dog and chairman of the Countryside Restoration Trust. He says:
I'm fed up with all of the rubbish on the BBC, I'm fed up with the political correctness on the BBC, and I'm fed up with the politically-correct people running the BBC.
I don't see why I should be expected to pay when the BBC refuses to represent normal people and refuses to provide a broad variety of programming.
There is a profound bias against the countryside at the BBC, and even the programmes that are meant to represent the countryside such as Countryfile and SpringWatch are so politically correct that I just can't watch them.
It's not just me who thinks this, either.
There is a wide range of outrage out there, but at the moment it seems that we are being completely ignored.
I've been arrested for speaking my mind, and to be honest, I've felt quite vulnerable about not paying the licence fee in the past.
But like they say, there's strength in numbers, and if more people decide not to pay the fee, then what are they going to do?
I think it's a valid thing to refuse to pay it. If enough of us stop paying, then the Government will be forced to take action.