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Post by thehighlandrebel on Dec 25, 2012 21:06:52 GMT
It should be a wake up call to ALL true religions, Christianity, Judaism etc. about the real and present threat Islam poses throughout the Holy Lands. What is particularly worrying are the statistics showing the decline of Christianty in it's traditional homelands.
Can I wish yourself and fellow posters a Merry Xmas before Xmas and Christianity is erradicated in this country by our politicians, our 'churches' and our MSM.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Dec 25, 2012 22:42:56 GMT
It should be a wake up call to ALL true religions, Christianity, Judaism etc. about the real and present threat Islam poses throughout the Holy Lands. What is particularly worrying are the statistics showing the decline of Christianty in it's traditional homelands.. Except of course, Israel itself which has an increase. It should be a wake up call to EVERYBODY - including atheists and agnostics too. Merry Xmas and a Happy new Year to you too THR
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Post by Teddy Bear on Feb 5, 2013 14:36:29 GMT
Raymond Ibrahim continues his monthly series detailing the persecution of Christians in the Islamic world. (links available on the webpage)
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Post by steevo on Feb 6, 2013 20:38:22 GMT
Hi Teddy, thought I'd pop in for a moment as I will occasionally do... I hope you've been well old friend. I have fondly thought of you over the years in spite of some fundamental difference understanding BBC motivation.
I want to comment on this post. More of us in the States have come to an understanding Britain is similar to the continent in anti-American sentiment. Many Brits now take it as matter-of-fact looking down on this side of the Atlantic simply because this is America. I suspect Raymond Ibrahim has such a disposition with his ease stating American support of Syrian jihadis killing Christians, and I'd like to clarity if possible.
I'm sure you know I despise the Obama administration as I know you do too. But to my knowledge they nor the "US" are willing supporters of Syrian jihadis. I get the feeling mister Ibrahim doesn't care to have that significance clearly understood. There is a group here, The Syrian Support Group, a private organization obscure with the American public who have a naive interpretation of the FSA. Some of their members are even expatriots from Syria. Our Treasury Department and Foreign Asset Control by granting them waivers based upon their evidence of contacts, goals etc., unfortunately have a notion still infecting our government when the bottom line presumption involves 'freedom' and the potential for some kind of democracy. It's also worth pointing out French, British, Turkish and Qatari special forces are involved in the recruitment and training of FSA rebels, which are in large part mercenaries
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Post by Teddy Bear on Feb 6, 2013 22:20:05 GMT
Steevo it's great to see you here again. It's been a long time -Waaaaayyyyy too long. You know you're always more than welcome, as well as your perceptions from the other side of the pond. Funnily enough I was thinking about you this week and wondering how you were. I remember you telling me that your health wasn't the best, and I wondered if that was a factor. It's so good to see you matey. I never read Ibrahim state that of US approval for Syrian jihadis killing Christians. What I can see from the last paragraph of the article above is Syria: At least three more Christians were kidnapped in the context of the U.S.-supported jihad against Assad.I don't think for a moment that Ibrahim believes the US wants Christians persecuted or worse. I believe though that the 'powers that be', and not only the US, are so intent on appeasing militant Islam that they will sacrifice pretty much everything that they consider of 'lesser' importance. This can be Israel, Christians, morality, ethics, honesty, you name it. We see it every day. As an example, I think most Americans would rather see Mubarak still holding Egypt together than the forces controlling things now. But because of the rise of Islamic extremism they believe they have to be seen to back the 'democratic' principles involved, even though everybody knows it has nothing to do with genuine democracy, in fact it is its antithesis. So if you can show me where you see Ibrahim stating something different please show me. In any case - don't be a stranger
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Post by steevo on Feb 7, 2013 12:58:17 GMT
Thanks for the welcome or re-welcome it's much appreciated, matey.
Well he makes no distinction, bluntly stating: "Several churches were targeted by U.S.-supported jihadis." Followed by one atrocious example after another after another.
Later there's some context but as if to make it a point the US is also responsible? "At least three more Christians were kidnapped in the context of the U.S.-supported jihad against Assad."
I agree over the concern of the raw persecution of Christians while most of the media remain silent. The world turns away from their horror.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Feb 7, 2013 18:43:50 GMT
I would have to say that the 'side effects' of Islamic appeasement is that a whole lot of non-Muslims living in those lands are suffering persecution, to which the West prefers to 'look the other way', instead of addressing it. It certainly isn't only the US that has this policy, but most of the Western governments, except where they have personal interests. There is no doubt that they appear willing to sacrifice everything else if it makes them appear 'welcoming' to the 'religion of peace'.
I think it's understandable that Ibrahim singles out the US as they are the most powerful nation in the world, and his articles are addressed to them. But there is no doubt that most ALL the other western nations are equally culpable.
I can well imagine if there was a president who was willing to denounce radical Islam the rest of the cowardly western nations would probably denounce him in an effort to bolster their own profile among Muslims. Much like happened with Bush when he declared war on terror. As soon as he did the left-wing media targeted him and made him appear a fool. His dyslexia didn't help, though I believe he was far from being a fool.
Let me ask you this, what do you think needs to happen to address this persecution? Who should lead it, and how should they do it?
I look forward to your response.
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Post by steevo on Feb 7, 2013 20:21:53 GMT
I appreciate your perspective.
I really can't give an answer because that would require a different western world with many values of yesteryear including a media that would bring this to the forefront. We have people here who are conservative/libertarian, not anti-Israel and probably wouldn't seriously attempt appeasement of Muslim/Arabs but I'm sure you know the score. They first have to get elected and then figure out how to face the devil (i.e the Left). But that's only speaking for this country and frankly I believe a majority here including myself want nothing more to do with the Middle East and any kind of covert or overt involvement, especially 'nation-building'. Look at what Obama is doing with Egypt now, honoring a contract when Mubarak was there by selling them modern-day jets. That's sick.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Feb 7, 2013 21:54:34 GMT
You identify the main reason that I maintain this site. It is the left wing mindset of journalists, those that themselves don't have to do anything about problems, just sit on the sidelines and criticise those that do, until eventually their agenda finds those that will carry it, regardless of real merit. This is why our own Conservatives are drifting further and further left to attract votes, and why Obama gets elected in the first place and retains power. Since it is primarily these journalists who speak mostly to the common person on the street, they in fact wield the most power. and since the BBC, by virtue of its 'independence' that the licence fee grants it, has more power than most in the influence it wields. A good example of this is posted here today. I can well believe that most Westerners want little to do with the Middle East, or Islamic fundamentalism. Fact is they won't have a choice. In the same way that Americans probably wanted nothing to do with Nazi Germany, it eventually found them. Muslims will make sure it affects EVERYBODY, and that's when they reap their just deserts. Question is, how much suffering and damage will take place beforehand?
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Post by Teddy Bear on Feb 7, 2013 21:59:44 GMT
Raymond Ibrahim again with his December account, and how Christmas seems to attract more Muslim oppression than at others.
(links available at website)
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Post by Teddy Bear on Apr 2, 2013 13:47:52 GMT
20,623 deadly Islamic terrorist attacks since 9/11.- Weekly Jihad Report Mar. 23 - Mar. 29
- Jihad Attacks: 38
- Allahu Akbars*: 55
- Dead Bodies: 178
- Critically Injured: 327
*Suicide Attacks
This does not include the instances of coercion, persecution and non-deadly attacks perpetrated by them. We live in a time when this kind of news is repressed by our mainstream media. Is it fear of reprisal for showing Muslims as intolerant and barbaric, or to curry favour with them, or both? In the case of the BBC I believe it's the last option. Here again from Raymond Ibrahim, the monthly account of that committed against Christians. (Links available on website)
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Post by Teddy Bear on Apr 7, 2013 18:12:40 GMT
4 Christian Copts were killed in Egypt over the weekend, so let's see how the BBC covered it. They didn't! They did have this story That is not until a Muslim man was killed as well, following the funerals of the 4 Christians, then this is the story on Sunday afternoon. My reason for highlighting certain passages will become clear. The impression anybody will have from reading this is that it was a mutual fight between the 2 religious factions, which appears to have been initiated by 'Christian youths drawing inflammatory symbols on an Islamic institute'. I'm just trying to imagine an incident where Palestinian 'youths' (although for sure the BBC would use the term 'children' to describe them) had done something similar on a Jewish institute that resulted in 4 Palestinians dying that wouldn't be reported immediately, and not just one article but several. I can't! So consider the 'facts' that the BBC has told you and now we'll see what other sources have added to the narrative. Here's Sky News: Four Christian Copts and one Muslim were killed when members of both communities started fighting and shooting at each other, sources said.
Residents claimed an angry crowd smashed shops belonging to Christians and a Reuters news agency reporter saw a burned-out Coptic day care centre and several damaged shops belonging to Christian traders. An apartment lived in by Muslims was also burned.
Residents said the violence started on Friday when a group of Christian children were drawing on a wall of a Muslim religious institute.
Muslim residents said the drawings had offended them because one looked like a cross.
"I saw the kids drawing on the wall after afternoon prayers so I grabbed them and told them to remove what they'd just written," said Mahmoud Mahmoud al Alfi, a Muslim resident.
Then another man arrived and started beating the children, drawing a large crowd, he said. The situation escalated when someone drew a gun and fired into the air, allegedly killing one boy with a stray bullet. Wonder why the BBC omitted to tell us this. Here's a picture of the 'cross'As always, Muslims can find offence with anything, and so a 50-year-ld Muslim walking home from Friday prayers noticed that children (who just happened to be Coptic Christians) who were drawing gammadion Swastikas on the walls of Al-Azhar University (the gammadion swastika represents the four corners of the earth and is rooted in Greco-Roman antiquity).From AP we get more details: A mob threw rocks and fired birdshot Sunday at several hundred Christians marching in a protest against Egypt's Islamist government after the funeral of four Christians killed in sectarian clashes over the weekend.
The Christians were chanting slogans against Islamist President Mohammed Morsi, just as several thousand did earlier during the funeral service nearby in the Coptic Orthodox cathedral in Cairo.
The attacking mob, described by witnesses as residents of the area, forced the marchers to take shelter inside the sprawling cathedral complex. They also showered the protesters with rocks from the roofs of nearby buildings, according to witness Ibrahim el-Shareef.
Mohammed Sultan, director of Egypt's national ambulance services, said at least 17 people were wounded in the clashes.
Riot police later arrived, firing tear gas at the Christians and the mob. Several tear gas canisters landed inside the cathedral's grounds, causing a panic among women and children who attended the funeral.
Video footage aired live on the private ONTV network showed young men on the roof of a building adjacent to the cathedral firing handguns in toward the compound. Is this the understanding you had from the BBC article? Thought not. Why not?
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Post by Teddy Bear on Apr 24, 2013 18:42:32 GMT
Probably the most recent Muslim attack on everybody's mind is the one in Boston, where 2 brothers killed 3 innocent people including a 8 year old boy, and injured 180, some critically with 13 losing limbs. One of my main criticisms of BBC coverage related to this incident is prior to the authorities knowing the identity of the perpetrators the BBC had this article speculating on who were most likely to have done it. Boston marathon bombings: Possible lines of inquiryWe know already from their mindset that they would most want it to be a right wing group or individuals responsible, although the type of pressure cooker bombs used were known to have been used in Afghanistan by militant Muslims. But the BBC would prefer not to list the ideology that I believe most suspected were responsible for this bombing as first choice. So they begin their article with this: A home-grown US operator with a domestic agenda
As of Wednesday, this is thought to be the most likely culprit.
The FBI maintains a long list of potential threats emanating from US individuals or groups harbouring violent intentions towards the federal government, civil organisations, or society in general.
The list includes white racial supremacists, fundamentalist Christian extremists, animal rights activists and anti-abortionists. So-called "lone wolf" operators - individuals not belonging to any known terrorist group - are far harder for the authorities to detect and track. Now just how are they able to make the claim that any of the above ARE THOUGHT TO BE THE MOST LIKELY SUSPECTS? Thought by whom? Did they interview every security agent working on the case to make that determination? Did they ask the heads of those security organisations for their suspicions? I doubt it very much as then they would have been able to quote them. But they have no problem telling the public what they know those agencies are thinking. But just in case it wasn't white racial supremacists, or fundamentalist Christian extremists, and might just turn out to be Muslim radicals, they ran 2 articles about the Muslim public fears of recrimination should it turn out that way: Boston Muslims react to marathon bombsBoston bombings: Muslim Americans await bomber’s IDI don't recall any article about the Boston public's fears that there might be more bombings, and as we know even following 9/11, there were no attacks against Muslims in the US, not by white racial supremacists or fundamentalist Christian extremists. But the BBC want to show themselves as caring and concerned about those of the religion of peace persuasion. Just consider the mindset they protect at all costs in the picture below where you see one of the brothers (circled red) who had just left the bomb in the backpack (pink) near the 8 year old boy who was killed. Which is also why you won't have heard much from the BBC about the following incidents, detailed by Raymond Ibrahim in his monthly account of Muslim persecution against Christians. (Links available in article)
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Post by steevo on Apr 24, 2013 20:07:50 GMT
It is a lie. Each administration we have had chose to focus on types of people here and just like with Clinton Obama's want it believed the Right are the domestic priority. But that's political/ideological manipulation and not factual criteria which, I assume, our FBI use. I have read plenty of articles over the years of how they have focused on potential/real threats and those have been Islamic-related. With this recent bombing they didn't even hint at who was behind it until they knew. What you're posting here is an ongoing discussion in our largely alternative media about the very real threat of follow-up propaganda we've known for years. Even when terror is indisputably from the Left or Islam, left-wing media determined to alter perception, exploit and demonize is now guaranteed. It is to be expected. Here's a recent article with some blatant hypocrisy from Australia: blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/racing_ahead/
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Post by Teddy Bear on Apr 24, 2013 23:58:31 GMT
With at least 20,747 recorded Deadly Islamic Terror attacks committed since 9/11, not to mention those thwarted by authorities before they could take place, anybody could be forgiven for assuming first off that this was just one more. The odds are certainly stacked up that way. Fortunately for us our security agencies don't rely on the likes of the BBC or similar media mindset organisations to establish their intelligence, which is why there are not many more incidents like this.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Jun 16, 2013 23:36:59 GMT
The March account continues. Here's an example to show how little people know in this country about incidents like these going on in the countries shown, thanks to mainstream media avoidance of covering it. A recent story concerns an Egypt Air plane that was on its way to the USA from Egypt when a BBC producer discovered a handwritten note in the toilet that threatened to set fire to the plane. Staff were alerted and the plane was diverted to Prestwick airport. Following an investigation and delay of 6 hours the plane was allowed to continue, but 5 of the passengers asked for asylum in the UK. I noticed in one of the comments following the article about this story a woman had written: For what reason were these people allowed off the plane to claim asylum in the UK when Egypt is a relatively peaceful normal country which is not at war with anyone when I last looked.
- Diana, Newcastle under Lyme, United Kingdom, 16/6/2013 17:52Clearly somebody ignorant of what life is like there if you're a Copt. I have no idea yet if any of these passengers are indeed Coptic Christians, but it shows the persecution against them in Egypt, as in many other places in the Islamic world, is completely off the radar of average citizens here. The opening paragraph of Ibrahim's article shows the ridiculous stance of Obama's government to this menace. (links available in article)
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Post by steevo on Jun 17, 2013 1:28:29 GMT
We have some heroes in Congress along with our President who are so concerned about WMD usage in Syria that they really wanna help the "rebels". I wonder if there are any Christians fighting along side of al Queda them? My gut feeling tells me there isn't.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Jun 17, 2013 14:45:18 GMT
We are used to hypocritical and unethical politicians using events for their own ends. In this case to make themselves look like caring and concerned individuals, especially for the Muslim lobby, regardless of the real issues surrounding this conflict.
But we also have to consider that but for the scurrilous and insidious reporting by our left wing media, failing to properly inform people of the real nature of this conflict, the politicians wouldn't think for a moment that arming these rebels was a popular choice.
Just a few years ago Assad was visiting England and was photographed at Buckingham Palace being greeted by the Queen. He also met and was fawned upon by the political elite at the time. Yet did any of his actions prior to that really justify bestowing this 'honour'? We are not being led by ANY moral compass, just fed the illusion along with the ignorance that makes it appear valid.
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Post by steevo on Jun 17, 2013 19:36:30 GMT
A lot of us are well aware of this opportune moment for the Obama Administration to distract some attention away from their war on the American people.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Jun 17, 2013 23:04:27 GMT
Yeah, I read something along those lines in this article by Noah Beck in the Commentator The troubling timing of Obama’s Syria epiphanyJoining the Syrian conflict with insufficient commitment to distract a scandal-weary U.S. audience could have catastrophic consequences, and that would be Obama's biggest scandal of all
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Post by Teddy Bear on Jul 30, 2013 20:43:10 GMT
Raymond Ibrahim continues his series with the April account. See if you were aware of the extent of this persecution according to the account you would have been 'informed' of by the BBC.
Too many links to post but you can access them on the webpage.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Aug 6, 2013 19:17:30 GMT
The latest update from Raymond Ibrahim (links available on his webpage)
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Post by Teddy Bear on Sept 12, 2013 23:00:50 GMT
One would think that by now, given the persecution of Christians by the Islamic mindset that has and is still taking place, our mainstream media would be focussing on it.
Instead we have a world that appears more prepared to assist the kind that perpetrate it, like Obama in Syria, willing to aid the rebels that are committing the atrocities there.
Raymond Ibrahim with his June account. (Links available on website)
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Post by Teddy Bear on Sept 27, 2013 21:41:59 GMT
As well as his continuing series, this one for July, Raymond Ibrahim also writes an article in The Commentator Jihadi slaughter; that was last weekend. This? Amid Nairobi it was very easy to miss last weekend's slaughter of Christians elsewhere. Pray for this weekend, and for all subsequent ones, because it seems that no-one on Earth cares Certainly not the BBC as we documented here(Links to individual stories below available on his webpage)
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Post by Teddy Bear on Nov 12, 2013 20:41:44 GMT
Before we get to the August account by Raymond Ibrahim of Muslim Persecution of Christians, let's have a look at this article from today on the BBC website (highlights mine)
So this article identifies 2 attacks on Christians by Muslims, and then proceeds to focus on others that were the result of one tribe or group against another - but not Muslims. So the point of the article seems to be to diminish the danger that Christians might have from Muslims, except as the last sentence tells us, 'they live...in dangerous neighbourhoods'.
So now when you read Raymond's account for August, and the preceding months, and see just how many attacks there have been by Muslims against Christians, does the BBC offering really give our society the real understanding that it needs, or just what the BBC wants our society to believe?
Considering that the BBC has journalists throughout the countries where many of these attacks against Christians are taking place, you just know they are aware of more than the 2 they mention. How did they omit Nigeria in their calculations?
(Multiple links available on the webpage below)
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Post by Teddy Bear on Nov 14, 2013 15:09:39 GMT
Raymond Ibrahim himself has commented on this BBC article above. Here's what he has to say about it in the Commentator:
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Post by Teddy Bear on Dec 17, 2013 21:33:40 GMT
The story continues with the October account by Raymond Ibrahim. Yet the BBC masquerade as caring and concerned when it comes to Muslim victims of the Islamist mindset. Yet those victims who share similar values to our own, the Christians in those lands, receive little from the BBC in the way of telling us of their plight. (Links to accounts available on website)
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Post by Teddy Bear on Dec 18, 2013 21:27:15 GMT
Prince Charles has met with several Christian representatives whose particular sects are based in the Middle East. They told him what has been going on in the various countries due to Islamic persecution, much of which Raymond highlights in his articles above.
To his credit the Prince forsakes any pc bullshit and identifies clearly the source of this persecution, no doubt to the chagrin of the BBC.
So how do they cover the story?
Well you can read the watered down way they avoid detailing the gruesome and vile manner of this foul Islamic mindset. The very headline distances themselves from making this accusation.
Oh no - not our friends to the vile - our BBC.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Dec 26, 2013 23:18:41 GMT
With the media giving more attention at this time of year to the attacks and persecution of Christians in the Middle East, the BBC have themselves had to acknowledge this. Particularly following a bomb attack in Baghdad which targeted Christians, killing 37. If we look at the various headlines from different outlets concerning this bombing we see this: Fox News: Bomb attacks on Christians in Baghdad kill 37 Telegraph: Christians targeted in Christmas Day bombing at Baghdad churchReuters: Christmas bombings kill 34 in IraqDaily Mail: Christians targeted as two separate bombs rock Baghdad killing at least 37 peopleAnd lest you think only the more right wing media is making clear in the headlines just what happened here, this is the Guardian offering: Bombs targeting Christians kill dozens in BaghdadYou get the idea. So what does the BBC tell us? Christian areas hit by Baghdad bombsChristian areas? Though the first sentences do tell us that Two bombs in Christian areas of the Iraqi capital Baghdad have killed at least 35 people, officials have said.
One device exploded near a Catholic church when worshippers were leaving a Christmas Day service, killing 24. Another bomb ripped through a market, killing 11 more people.it seems that the BBC don't want to make that clear in the headline, unlike the rest. We are then told: Christian leaders denied that the attacks had targeted worshippers.Now I can guarantee that you won't find that ridiculous assertion in any of the other media articles. Just why, how, and who did the BBC get for that one? Terrorists planted bombs purposefully in a Christian area, set off to kill the maximum number of Christians at the time, but the BBC wants us to believe that the fact that Christians died is pure coincidence. So now let's look at the other news concerning Christians in the Mid-East that Yahoo News gives us: Pope prays for Christians persecuted for faithVATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis is urging people to speak out against persecution of Christians, whom he likened to the Church's first martyrs.Pope's Christmas wish: hope for a better worldVATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis offered Christmas wishes Wednesday for a better world, praying for protection for Christians under attack, battered women and trafficked children, peace in the Middle East and Africa, and dignity for refugees fleeing misery and conflict around the... Middle East Christians being 'massacred': Anglican leaderChristians in the Middle East are being "attacked and massacred" and driven into exile, the leader of the world's Anglicans said Wednesday in his first Christmas sermon. Justin Welby used his first Christmas Day address as Archbishop of Canterbury to remember those suffering... So looking at the BBC Middle East webpage we can pick up several articles (highlighted by red arrow) related to those above. But there's a glaring difference as we shall see. Under Features and Analysis the first we see is 'Christians under Fire' The actual headline is Lives of fear for Egypt's ChristiansIf you're confused by the headline, you should be. Perhaps an editor will pick up on the strange English used. The article tells us of this occrence from October Mariam Ashraf was so excited about going to the wedding that she did not wait for help from her mother.
The seven year old dressed herself. She chose fluffy red boots, a black skirt with white embroidery, and a pink top.
Then, for the first time ever, she asked her uncle to take her picture with his mobile phone, showing her outfit from top to toe.
It was the last photo ever taken of the polite little girl described by her parents as "an angel walking on earth".
'Fell at my feet' Mariam was one of four people killed by gunmen who sprayed Coptic Christians with bullets outside a Cairo church in October.
Her Mother, Nirmeen Magdy, was shot four times. Certainly a touching story, but what did the BBC tell us of this at the time it happened? There is only one article on the 21st October concerning this which is headlined Egypt's prime minister denounces Coptic church attackNotice again, like before with Christian 'areas', it is a 'church' that is attacked. About the incident we are told: Egypt's prime minister has condemned an attack outside a Coptic church in Cairo on Sunday that killed four people, including an eight-year-old girl. In the latest attack, two masked gunmen riding on motorbikes fired indiscriminately at people emerging from a wedding service at the Church of the Virgin Mary in the capital's Waraa district on Sunday evening.
Health ministry and ambulance service officials said four people were killed, including the girl and a woman, and 17 others were wounded.
So the headline skips the attack, the death of this 8 year old, as well as the others, and sees the condemnation of the Egyptian PM as the main story. Hardly the moving account where the BBC want to make it news. We can see an immediate contrast on the same Mid-East webpage where highlighted in a purple rectangle is Two dead in Israel-Gaza border violence Notice we are told right away that people have died. The first A three-year-old Palestinian girl has been killed in a series of retaliatory Israeli strikes on the Gaza Strip.Then we are told The attacks came hours after an Israeli civilian was shot dead by a Palestinian sniper while repairing the border security fence.It makes no mention that the 'Israeli civilian' was actually an Israeli Bedouin, but that might affect the narrative the BBC wants the reader to have. But you see they have no problem reporting deaths in headlines when it suits them, even if they put the last first., because it suits their Palestinian victim agenda. ( BBC Watch has more on this story) Another article we see is Long winterA tough Christmas beckons for the Middle East's ChristiansAnybody following Raymond Ibrahim's accounts of Muslim persecution of Christians in the Mid-East for the last few years might just wonder where the BBC has been all that time thinking it's only tough this Christmas time. Finally, the story with the turquoise With the media giving more attention at this time of year to the attacks and persecution of Christians in the Middle East, the BBC have themselves had to acknowledge this. Particularly following a bomb attack in Baghdad which targeted Christians, killing 37. If we look at the various headlines from different outlets concerning this bombing we see this: Fox News: Bomb attacks on Christians in Baghdad kill 37 Telegraph: Christians targeted in Christmas Day bombing at Baghdad churchReuters: Christmas bombings kill 34 in IraqDaily Mail: Christians targeted as two separate bombs rock Baghdad killing at least 37 peopleAnd lest you think only the more right wing media is making clear in the headlines just what happened here, this is the Guardian offering: Bombs targeting Christians kill dozens in BaghdadYou get the idea. So what does the BBC tell us? Christian areas hit by Baghdad bombsChristian areas? Though the first sentences do tell us that Two bombs in Christian areas of the Iraqi capital Baghdad have killed at least 35 people, officials have said.
One device exploded near a Catholic church when worshippers were leaving a Christmas Day service, killing 24. Another bomb ripped through a market, killing 11 more people.it seems that the BBC don't want to make that clear in the headline, unlike the rest. We are then told: Christian leaders denied that the attacks had targeted worshippers.Now I can guarantee that you won't find that ridiculous assertion in any of the other media articles. Just why, how, and who did the BBC get for that one? Terrorists planted bombs purposefully in a Christian area, set off to kill the maximum number of Christians at the time, but the BBC wants us to believe that the fact that Christians died is pure coincidence. So now let's look at the other news concerning Christians in the Mid-East that Yahoo News gives us: Pope prays for Christians persecuted for faithVATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis is urging people to speak out against persecution of Christians, whom he likened to the Church's first martyrs.Pope's Christmas wish: hope for a better worldVATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis offered Christmas wishes Wednesday for a better world, praying for protection for Christians under attack, battered women and trafficked children, peace in the Middle East and Africa, and dignity for refugees fleeing misery and conflict around the... Middle East Christians being 'massacred': Anglican leaderChristians in the Middle East are being "attacked and massacred" and driven into exile, the leader of the world's Anglicans said Wednesday in his first Christmas sermon. Justin Welby used his first Christmas Day address as Archbishop of Canterbury to remember those suffering... So looking at the BBC Middle East webpage we can pick up several articles (highlighted by red arrow) related to those above. But there's a glaring difference as we shall see. Under Features and Analysis the first we see is 'Christians under Fire' The actual headline is Lives of fear for Egypt's ChristiansIf you're confused by the headline, you should be. Perhaps an editor will pick up on the strange English used. The article tells us of this occrence from October Mariam Ashraf was so excited about going to the wedding that she did not wait for help from her mother.
The seven year old dressed herself. She chose fluffy red boots, a black skirt with white embroidery, and a pink top.
Then, for the first time ever, she asked her uncle to take her picture with his mobile phone, showing her outfit from top to toe.
It was the last photo ever taken of the polite little girl described by her parents as "an angel walking on earth".
'Fell at my feet' Mariam was one of four people killed by gunmen who sprayed Coptic Christians with bullets outside a Cairo church in October.
Her Mother, Nirmeen Magdy, was shot four times. Certainly a touching story, but what did the BBC tell us of this at the time it happened? There is only one article on the 21st October concerning this which is headlined Egypt's prime minister denounces Coptic church attackNotice again, like before with Christian 'areas', it is a 'church' that is attacked. About the incident we are told: Egypt's prime minister has condemned an attack outside a Coptic church in Cairo on Sunday that killed four people, including an eight-year-old girl. In the latest attack, two masked gunmen riding on motorbikes fired indiscriminately at people emerging from a wedding service at the Church of the Virgin Mary in the capital's Waraa district on Sunday evening.
Health ministry and ambulance service officials said four people were killed, including the girl and a woman, and 17 others were wounded.
So the headline skips the attack, the death of this 8 year old, as well as the others, and sees the condemnation of the Egyptian PM as the main story. Hardly the moving account where the BBC want to make it news. We can see an immediate contrast on the same Mid-East webpage where highlighted in a purple rectangle is Two dead in Israel-Gaza border violence Notice we are told right away that people have died. The first A three-year-old Palestinian girl has been killed in a series of retaliatory Israeli strikes on the Gaza Strip.Then we are told The attacks came hours after an Israeli civilian was shot dead by a Palestinian sniper while repairing the border security fence.It makes no mention that the 'Israeli civilian' was actually an Israeli Bedouin, but that might affect the narrative the BBC wants the reader to have. But you see they have no problem reporting deaths in headlines when it suits them, even if they put the last first., because it suits their Palestinian victim agenda. ( BBC Watch has more on this story) Another article we see is Long winterA tough Christmas beckons for the Middle East's ChristiansAnybody following Raymond Ibrahim's accounts of Muslim persecution of Christians in the Mid-East for the last few years might just wonder where the BBC has been all that time thinking it's only tough this Christmas. Finally, the story with the turquoise rectangle ,which is the only one related to those on the Yahoo Mid-East webpage. Pope Francis urges aid access to Syria in Christmas speechSee if you can see the Pope's fear for Christians laid out in that article. As for Welby's, it doesn't feature at all. One can hardly expect the BBC to quote the Archbishop of Canterbury's thoughts and concerns at Christmas time.
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Post by steevo on Dec 27, 2013 10:59:51 GMT
Who's gonna care? So there's horror and death upon people of the Christian faith by Muslims. Get over it and concentrate on legitimate news.
Edit: Sorry Teddy it's sarcasm and I was upset.
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