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Post by cherenkov on Nov 25, 2011 0:57:01 GMT
I have watched this creature deployed by Newsnight at times when it feels it needs to really undermine the government. In the early stages of the Libyan crisis the creature was unleashed on the foreign office secretary. By the time she had finished with him he was shaking with anger and humiliation, mainly because instead of being interviewed he was ranted at by a Peterhead fishwife!
Tonight they unleashed it again and once more instead of allowing the gusts to say what they thought she orchestrated an escalation of the dispute, making it even more unlikely that any kind of reconciliation would be possible before the trade union minority supported act of treason at the end of this month.
The Wark entity is a creature that should be repatriated to Scotland as soon as possible so that it can use it's unique gifts to ask Alex Salmond how it feels to exploit the euphoria of two ordinary people who have just won a fortune, in order to secure a million pound donation to the party set upon the destruction of the United Kingdom. I'd like to think any decent person would have said, look, you need time to get used to having all the money you've won before you start gifting a million pounds to the Self-indulgent Narcissists Party, especially when you think of what a million pounds could do for the people of the world who so desperately need it!
But not the SNP (as defined above), their shameless leader took the cash. Disgusting!
Go on Newsnight, send your creature back to Scotland. It can be re-united with it's own kind, and possibly do some good there. Here in England it is simply an affront to any attempt to make a rational and realistic appraisal of the the position our country is now in.
Does the Wark entity have issue? If so does it wish to see it's great, great grandchildren saddled with paying off the debts the public sector unions, so over-indulged by their party when last in government, wish us not to repay in order for them to hang on to an unrealistic idealistic dream of what they feel the new post-economic crisis world owes them?
But of course the Wark doesn't think rationally. Say the word Conservative, of Liberal Democrat, and it starts to destroy the studio in it's righteous, idealistic indignation! So the Wark would say, no, we just won't repay a penny and we'll just default on all our debts. Right, only an animal can think like that. Humans are more intelligent supposedly.
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Post by thehighlandrebel on Nov 25, 2011 8:22:01 GMT
I used to be a member of the SNP, Cherenkov, and met Adolph Salmond a few times and must admit that I used to be impressed with him. That was until I found out about the fanatical anti semitism within the party and their marches supporting Palestinian terrorist groups. That money will no doubt be given to the Muslim Brotherhood whom they have already handed over huge sums to their affiliates in Scotland so they can speed up their dream of wiping Israel of the map, the genocide of the Jewish people and the erradication of Christianity in Scotland. Have a look at their official website at www.snp.org On the top right of the page their is a 'search this site' box. Type in things like 'goldstone' 'Israel' 'Hamas' 'Gaza' etc. and see what you find. Quilliam Alert: Scottish National Party to endorse Islamist candidate
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Post by Teddy Bear on Nov 25, 2011 16:38:11 GMT
Excellent posts guys. I believe the programme you're referring to is this one Cher, and it's available here to watch again for anybody who has a mind to.
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Post by cherenkov on Nov 26, 2011 20:11:18 GMT
Yes I watched it again and I felt it was two against one for most of it, but what really angered me was when she cut the Conservative off in mid-sentence after he had said, many think the government has gone too far... and turns to the Union leader and says 'Too far? and are frontline operations in the NHS going to be disrupted?' and she blurts out 'Yes of course'. The look of sheer exasperation on the Conservative's face at being able to finish saying what he was trying to say is typical of how Wark leaves government MPs once she's done with them. By the way I feel a sincere apology is in order. In my anger I compared Wark to a Peterhead fishwife. I spent several years of my childhood living on the Moray Firth coast and I sincerely apologise to the good hardworking women of Peterhead for the insult of saying Wark is in any way like them! I can't track down the Libya interview with Alistair Burt I think it was, which showed her at her finger stabbing, interrupting, ranting and intimidating worst! However I did come upon this: US court ruling leaves Kirsty Wark with egg on her faceI'm not sure someone who is meant to be an impartial and objective news reporter should be engaged in political campaigning. If she wants to go into politics she should resign from the BBC, otherwise how can she be taken seriously? "Kirsty Wark's persona now begins to slip towards the Labour hackery she has long managed to keep reasonably well hidden. Jack McConnell's favourite holiday villa companion looks a right twit in this Newsnight "interview" (more like an inquisition) with First Minister Alex Salmond. Note her utter lack of knowledge of what happened in the Scottish Parliament that day"
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Post by Teddy Bear on Nov 26, 2011 23:01:43 GMT
I believe the Wark/Burt Newsnight interview you're referring to is this one, but unfortunately it's no longer available to view again, at least not by the BBC. If by now Tories don't know what to expect from the BBC, and aren't prepared to give at least as good as they get, then I can't feel too sorry for them. How naive or weak must they be? I've seen young EDL representatives do a superb job of making their points on the BBC despite attempts by the interviewer to ridicule them. Seems other, more seasoned, politicians could take a leaf out of their book. The BBC are biased - this has been going on for so long now, then any politician that is not aware of it and prepared to take it on, shouldn't be in office. Otherwise all we have is chicken-shit pseudo Tories like Cameron running things, doing their best to 'appease and play the game' with the BBC, but failing those that voted for him.
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Post by cherenkov on Nov 27, 2011 2:22:42 GMT
Could well have been, though Wark's ranting was mainly focused on the apparent failure of the UK government to magically whisk all it's citizen's out of harm's way the instant things got nasty. She was so hostile and vitriolic that it was hard not to think that she was trying to make her victim break down in the blubbering tears of a broken man!
Back in the days of the Thatcher government ministers had the self-confidence (not to mention the democratic mandate) to stand up to the BBC NUJ biggots. I can recall at least two instances when ministers disconnected their mics and walked out.
Having won the election without achieving the vital overall parliamentary majority Cameron has had to compromise and yes appease some to hold the coalition together and keep Labour out while the fundamental damaging imbalance in our economy left by them as per 'There is no money' is put right.
I think therefore you're being too hard on Cameron calling him what you did. However I do think a stronger line towards the BBC is entirely appropriate. I agree with you that playing the game and trying to appease the BBC is wrong and only makes them more overtly biased. I look forward to when one of the cabinet, when interrupted as usual while he's trying to make an important point to the listeners, tells Humphreys or whoever to shut the F. up and stop being so bloody rude, obstructive and biased!
Trying to be fair and polite to rude and unfair people is a waste of time. I have tried over the years but I don't bother any more.
The EDL are not seen as a threat to Labour so the BBC will of course let them come on and say pretty much what they like in the same way they let Labour and their followers come on and slag off the coalition without once ever really being pressed on the specifics of what they they would be doing differently at this time.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Nov 27, 2011 19:05:13 GMT
You can see the interview again between Paxman and the guy from EDL here, I think you'll agree he wasn't given an easy time at all, but the EDL guy ran rings round him. I do understand the reasoning used by politicians in trying to appease the insidious forces prevalent in this country, among which I include the BBC. All that this does is strengthen those forces, and makes it more difficult to change, and increases the negative effect they have. This is never a solution. Because no major voice speaks out, many people think they must either be wrong for thinking the way they do, or will end up being drawn to more extreme groups like BNP. Look how the BBC tried to sideline Churchill in favour of Chamberlain, and how eventually the people knew who they wanted running the country. If we are already past the point when politicians will avoid confrontation of difficult issues, then it is a guarantee there will be a violent revolt by the public at some point in the future.
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Post by thehighlandrebel on Nov 27, 2011 20:23:15 GMT
Maybe this is a deliberate ploy by the beeb to dumb down politics and turn it into a (un)reality style farce.
I suppose if you asked the majority of viewers in this country what they'd rather watch, a hard hitting political debate or the Jeremy Kyle show I'm sure I know what the answer would be.
People are wanting slapstick and farce and thats what they're getting.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Nov 28, 2011 0:36:17 GMT
Maybe this is a deliberate ploy by the beeb to dumb down politics and turn it into a (un)reality style farce. I suppose if you asked the majority of viewers in this country what they'd rather watch, a hard hitting political debate or the Jeremy Kyle show I'm sure I know what the answer would be. People are wanting slapstick and farce and thats what they're getting. I don't think those at the BBC are clever enough to make a deliberate attempt to dumb down politics. They are dumb themselves, and merely reflect their ignorance. The fact that education, and the family unit which would also lead to education, has been eroded and 'dumbed down', means we have a dumbed down society. A real hard-hitting political debate would be above the heads of most people, who need to reduce valid arguments to neat clichés which they have already been fed. Just listen to many of the comments by the Question Time audience to see evidence of that. The more intelligent are turned off by the usual bullshit presented by those politicians which the BBC are more likely to have on.
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Post by cherenkov on Nov 28, 2011 1:16:16 GMT
Certainly the dumbing down agenda has been shared by both Labour and the BBC for years. Intelligent, free-thinking people have a nasty habit of resisting the manipulative processes that they hope will turn the UK into a one party socialist state.
People who aren't dumbed down have a nasty habit of asking how such a state, with a population heading for 70 million will be able to pay for itself when even now, before all the rich, the talented, the ambitious and hard-working have all scarpered as they would, we can't afford to pay for ourselves without borrowing billions every month, much of which is spent on paying the interest on what we've borrowed already!
But of course, when you're a paid up, fully indoctrinated idealist, you can only acknowledge those facts that are in accord with your beliefs. Everything else, even if rational, realist people can see the shocking truth only too clearly, has to be either ignored, swept under the carpet, or denounced as irrelevant or spurious. In other words BBC News in a nutshell.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Nov 28, 2011 16:43:58 GMT
'Intelligent, free-thinking people' seem to be alas in the minority. Most people have gotten used to the media doing their thinking for them, and unless their confronted themselves with the shortfalls in the (lack of) logic involved, they don't engage their own brain. You can probably see yourself how much of your own world view has changed once you became aware of the amount of bias generated by the BBC, and started seeing through the 'reality' they were trying to validate.
One of the worst traits of the leftist mind is they never consider that their way of thinking could be wrong. It's never their fault. If as you say, 'the rich, the talented, the ambitious and the hard working scarpered', the left would blame their 'greed' or 'lack of patriotism' for doing so. Not that the left destroyed any society that one can feel patriotic for. Then, because they are afraid to engage with those of the 'rich and talented', because deep down they are threatened by their own inferiority complex, they maintain their doomed viewpoint.
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