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Post by Teddy Bear on May 19, 2013 18:17:53 GMT
Most people reading this will be familiar with news this week concerning the convictions of a gang of Muslims in Oxford for sexually abusing girls as young as 11 for years, and using them as sex slaves. Besides the obvious, there are several issues, and reflections of our society, that have been highlighted by this story. When you read the stories of these girls, you see most of them come from broken homes and were under the responsibility of social services. What is clearly apparent is the complete failure of social services to monitor, supervise, and protect these girls. You will also see that the police were notified numerous times for a period of years about some of the cases of abuse and also failed to act. So what is the underlying cause for these failures, and what does it have to do with the BBC? Well for years we have been detailing stories showing the BBC excusing negative actions by Muslims, particularly the more militant. This appeasement, under the guise of multiculturalism or ethnic tolerance, is however only applied to Muslims, as we have also shown a complete hypocritical approach to other cultures or ethnic origins that the BBC feels no danger from. Then there is no problem revealing the sub culture context. The Islamic term for this behaviour exhibited by the BBC is dhimmitude, the main purpose in their terror attacks and militancy. Since BBC output has so much effect on our society, certainly those of a similar left wing mindset, but also those right of centre who want to avoid arguments or discord to air any variant views. It is referred to as Political Correctness, which basically means one cannot state the obvious if the Ministry of Thought deems it negative to their particular cause or agenda. So for the BBC it is not the children that are the victims, and should be protected, but the Muslims. When you read any article on the BBC website related to these abuses, while it is obvious from the names and pictures of the perpetrators just what the common link is, it is not directly referred to in the article. So any wonder that government agencies who are supposed to protect the vulnerable in our society avert their gaze when Muslims are involved? How can the problem be solved when those that need to do so are not prepared to identify and confront 'the elephant in the room'? Now you will hear the perfect examples to illustrate these points. The Oxford case was in the news at the beginning of last week. I was wondering if last week's Question Time was going to have some question put to the panel concerning the failures by police and social services over this abuse, but the producers decided to omit highlighting this national disgrace. Perhaps because the Shadow Immigration Minister was on the panel, and the BBC preferred not to have anybody focus on how Labour's immigration policies contributed to these criminal acts. They did however run it on Any Questions on Radio 4 on Friday, and repeated on Saturday afternoon. Here is the relevant part of the programme where they discussed the issue and you will hear that each of them are guilty of doing the very thing that allowed this, and other similar abuses in Rochdale, Derby, Telford, etc, that have come to light in the last few years, to go on for so long. They even lumped these together with the Savile and Hall scandals, and everybody was talking about what needs to be done, and the need to be less PC and more straightforward, blah blah blah, yet still nobody could mention the M word. If Savile and Hall share a common link with these vile grooming gangs, it is the BBC that enabled all of them to continue - and still does. It would be comical, if it wasn't so tragic, how they can avoid seeing THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM! Now contrast this with another BBC programme on Radio 2, where Jeremy Vine, to his great credit, has two guests on his show - the Imam of the Oxford Mosque and the head of the NSPCC. I have the relevant part of the programme here and you can listen to it yourself. The Imam, Dr Taj Hargay, is terrific and tells it just like it is. It is so refreshing to hear somebody finally speak out about some of the issues that have been troubling our society in such a frank and open way. He even refers to the 'pussyfooting around' and failure to call 'a spade a spade' by those who should have dealt with this abuse a lot sooner than they did The other guy - John Brown, head of the NSPCC sexual abuse programme, is a typical left wing moron who will never break out of his mindset to deal with this problem. When you hear the excuses he comes out with, even arguing with the Imam - the EXPERT in front of him, rather than have to acknowledge the particular Muslim mindset that allows this scum to continue their foul deeds for so long. Consider the position he is in and the responsibility he is charged with in his ridiculous avoidance to see the elephant in the room. This is the ridiculous society the BBC has already created with no light at the end of any tunnel before the shit hits the inevitable fan. These are the people who demonstrate clearly they are completely NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE.
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Post by steevo on May 20, 2013 2:31:51 GMT
Sometimes it's posts like this that can cause any old American to be drawn into reading and relating. Your esteemed institution just like so much here do their darnedest. But I admit in all my pessimism as time clicks on I wonder, just a little, if their mindset doesn't quite recognize a potential cliff beyond return where the desensitized masses begin to see that elephant even if it means a black and white snorkel in their face?
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Post by Teddy Bear on May 20, 2013 12:43:58 GMT
if their mindset doesn't quite recognize a potential cliff beyond return where the desensitized masses begin to see that elephant even if it means a black and white snorkel in their face?I'm counting on it! In trying to understand their particular mindset, it's clear they are unable or unwilling to reflect on the consequences of their thinking and correct accordingly. It appears as if their own ego makes that unlikely or impossible. So there's no doubt about where we're heading, and eventually those forced to pay the price for their stupidity, especially when its presented as wisdom by arrogant beings, will show their anger very directly. We have seen lefties become increasingly dismissive of complaints and criticisms levelled at them, which I believe will only grow further as their already inflated egos expand, making retribution all the more punishing when it happens. When I think of what these children had to endure because this mindset wants to jerk itself off, my feeling is it cannot be soon enough or painful enough. They are a cancer!
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Post by steevo on May 20, 2013 21:07:25 GMT
Well I wouldn't put it that way even if we're in fundamental agreement on their intent I know I'm not being presumptive to say most here wouldn't with all due respect. We pretty much only see a deliberateness, willing and calculative with full knowledge of the destructive consequences. We don't emphasis and barely even consider if only they knew what they are reaping. They've already succeeded possibly beyond their wildest expectations even a generation ago (I remember in the mid-90s when "Islamic fanaticism" was common reference with respect to woman's rights, freedom of expression etc.). They have a lot going when you see the profound delusion of traditional moral basis, conviction and ability to make judgment we now face throughout the West. To play devil's advocate, that's a bigger elephant and in many many more rooms. And I really don't see it getting better even though I haven't lost all hope (that's tough). When I read a post like yours here or the revelations coming out in our mainstream media about Obama (even though much of it has been known by those of us conservative/libertarian) I like to think people will see the obvious. But I am highly skeptical our nature is enlightened enough at this point in time. Will there be a day I'm wrong and you're right?
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Post by Teddy Bear on May 20, 2013 22:07:05 GMT
I'm sure like me, you see the hopelessness in the policies implemented, and the way they try to get them to succeed, that ultimate failure for a whole host of issues and complications surrounding them, is a natural consequence.
Leading up to this is when the general public will see through the bullshit they've been fed. Many do already, but it still needs many more.
Time will tell.
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Post by steevo on May 20, 2013 23:15:32 GMT
I really don't know, although I can appreciate your deductions. We're talking about the power of control and with technology making increasing advancement side by side with moral delusion/depravity, fear of security, well-being, and ultimate dependency on the state, it could be argued the ability to manipulate with a bleak outlook to reverse the forces at play is greater than ever. Hopelessness may indeed be for the many but the few may well take supreme advantage. You think eyes will be opened in time to figure it out with those who take greatest responsibility, with the where-with-all to turn it around. I have doubts, but if there's anything I could hope to be wrong about...
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Post by Teddy Bear on May 20, 2013 23:42:30 GMT
History has shown that good ultimately triumphs over evil. We see the selfish and tyrannical carry the seeds of their own destruction. I doubt either of us would have ever imagined would be in this ridiculous situation - the corruption, the ignorance, the mentality, the complete incompetence that increases daily. Even those voices that we still hear that carry wisdom and foresight are vilified by the lowlifes, and the majority have lost or never gained the power to think and reason for themselves. I think the negative events still to come will actually force people to start exercising their own minds. What it will take and the depth we will get to before that happens only time will tell.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Jul 18, 2014 21:49:16 GMT
As soon as I saw this headline I had a feeling it might be the same great Imam from the Oxford mosque, Dr. Taj Hargay, as appeared on the Jeremy Vine show. Sure enough it was, and good to see what he had to say about the sex gangs wasn't a 'one-off'. Truly a credit to our society.
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Post by steevo on Jul 19, 2014 2:02:23 GMT
So the Koran doesn't advocate the burka? At times (once in a great while) I've wondered if their contemporary fundamentalists demand more repression than the days of kiddie-lover Mo. If it wasn't for your pre-qualifier with the good iman I'd have my doubts he was sincere. I hope he has significant influence. Advocation of individual liberty will help all of us.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Jul 19, 2014 17:08:29 GMT
Given the Islamic nutters that infest our society he's a very brave man. I understand your doubts regarding sincerity of any Muslim, especially given the strategy of taqiyya (deception) which is part of their bid to run the world. But seeing this guy really 'tell it like it is', is heartening.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Jul 24, 2014 22:13:25 GMT
Dr. Taj Hargey, the brilliant Oxford Imam, has launched an online petition which requires 100,000 signatures to force government to debate the ban of the burka. I urge all reading this to sign - and spread the word. Only 127 signatures so far.
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Post by charmbrights on Jul 25, 2014 8:05:15 GMT
Dr. Taj Hargey, the brilliant Oxford Imam, has launched an online petition which requires 100,000 signatures to force government to debate the ban of the burka. I urge all reading this to sign - and spread the word. Only 127 signatures so far. Given the Government's outstanding record on successful IT projects and keeping confidential information private would you sign this with your name and address? Or am I being paranoid again?
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Post by Teddy Bear on Jul 25, 2014 17:26:10 GMT
Paranoia is understandable in today's world, but I didn't let it stop me signing the petition. I've a feeling that MANY would do so as well if they get to hear about it. It's a pity that none of the newspaper articles on the topic gave the link to the petition. I had to search for it separately once I knew there was one.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Aug 27, 2014 20:37:11 GMT
A particular group of men have been predominant in recent years throughout the country of child sexual abuse - they are Pakistani Muslims. When those in our society responsible for protecting these children continue to avoid confronting the mindset of these groups, and determining what needs to be done to address the problem, it only enables these groups and guarantees that this abuse will get worse.
But since we have a national broadcaster that is unable to label these men as Pakistani Muslims, because they claim it might make the public racist or Islamophobic, the left wing mindset that is akin to the BBC, who are mostly working in those 'protective' agencies and supposed to help these children, also avoid calling 'a spade a spade', and instead of confronting the problem, look the other way.
People are rightfully getting sick and tired of this disingenuous bullshit, and are also sick and tired of the arrogance displayed by the BBC who think that they need to guard us against thought-crimes. That only they have the intelligence to understand the issues, but determine we are too inferior to also do so, far less know how to deal with it.
Again, following another gang of child abusers coming to public gaze in Rotherham, the BBC have not only avoided calling them Muslims, but mostly avoided the Pakistani common bond. At best we get 'Asians', or 'men from Rotherham' in the main articles on this story. Any time they have noted the Pakistani theme, it is on a linked story, not the main one.
Following criticism of this the BBC responded:
What's 'nonsense' is the claim by the BBC that their coverage is meant to convey the real story and not their usual PC bullshit. Think of the children they hurt with the influence of their agenda.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Aug 27, 2014 21:40:27 GMT
In this story you can see just how the left-wing mindset, guided by the BBC, manage to excuse themselves for helping those who abused these children for a long long time. Just imagine being one of those children who must face the rest of their lives knowing how their society just allowed them to be desecrated in this way. Here's the faces of a couple of these enablers, Shaun Wright and Roger Stone, - look 'respectable' enough, real stern and tough, don't they? Shaun Wrong? Roger Sponge?
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Post by Teddy Bear on Aug 27, 2014 22:23:31 GMT
Excellent article on the topic by James Delingpole, who even manages to inject some humour into his caustic criticisms.
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Post by charmbrights on Aug 28, 2014 7:57:37 GMT
In this story you can see just how the left-wing mindset, guided by the BBC, manage to excuse themselves for helping those who abused these children for a long long time. ... NO NO NO NOHow many times have we heard the phrase "Lessons have been learnt" which actually means "We think enough time has gone by for people to forget this mess - so it's all right now"?
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Post by Teddy Bear on Aug 28, 2014 14:32:05 GMT
How many times have we heard the phrase "Lessons have been learnt" Every time following a scandal allowed to be perpetrated by these left wing morons.
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Post by steevo on Aug 29, 2014 4:14:32 GMT
Thought I'd add this from the Telegraph... The woman who presided over the last five years of failure as the boss of children’s services at Rotherham Council is the same executive who removed three children from their foster parents because they were Ukip voters.
Mrs Thacker refused to back down, saying the children’s “cultural and ethnic needs” did not fit in with the parents’ “strong views”. She said their support for Ukip meant they opposed “multiculturalism”
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Post by charmbrights on Aug 29, 2014 6:47:21 GMT
Interesting that the BBC News At Ten last night referred to the miscreants as "Pakistani". Somebody seems to have decided that it's better to be accurate, and politically incorrect, than to be accused of helping paedophiles!
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Post by Teddy Bear on Aug 29, 2014 14:18:53 GMT
The woman who presided over the last five years of failure as the boss of children’s services at Rotherham Council is the same executive who removed three children from their foster parents because they were Ukip voters.
Mrs Thacker refused to back down, saying the children’s “cultural and ethnic needs” did not fit in with the parents’ “strong views”. She said their support for Ukip meant they opposed “multiculturalism” Absolutely sickening - she should be jailed or put into a mental asylum...oh yes, they closed the mental asylum and the inmates are running the country. Interesting that the BBC News At Ten last night referred to the miscreants as "Pakistani". Somebody seems to have decided that it's better to be accurate, and politically incorrect, than to be accused of helping paedophiles! I see uncharacteristically the main article today on the subject by the BBC states in the first few paragraphs that At least 1,400 children were sexually exploited, mainly by men of Pakistani heritage, between 1997 and 2013. Clearly the other media who have been reporting on the previous unwillingness by the BBC to 'call a spade a spade' on this issue have had its effect. Frankly it's too little too late, and I couldn't care less if they now claim that 'lessons have been learned', the damage they have already contributed to is immense. They have the same sickening mindset as Steevo showed about this Thacker woman.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Aug 29, 2014 15:13:27 GMT
Actually, I've just read a comment at The Telegraph which might explain just how the BBC got their information about the police raid on Cliff Richard's house. I wonder if the BBC assured the South Yorkshire police that in return for their cooperation on notice for this raid they would do their best to minimise their complicity in allowing these child abusers to continue. I wouldn't put it past either of them.
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Post by steevo on Aug 29, 2014 23:29:42 GMT
Clearly the other media who have been reporting on the previous unwillingness by the BBC to 'call a spade a spade' on this issue have had its effect. Right on. That is the astute and unfortunately elusive observation needed.
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Post by charmbrights on Aug 31, 2014 8:03:24 GMT
The BBC web site says:This also is the WRONG attitude. Those who held positions of trust and power should be charged with criminal offences ranging from neglect of duty in public office up to and including being accessories to child rape.
However, I expect only "Assistant Deputy heads will roll" and the senior people will sail on through life serenely. The reason for this is that (as in the case of Ms Sharp) the people who appointed them cannot now sack them as their own judgement would come into question.
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Post by thehighlandrebel on Aug 31, 2014 11:01:01 GMT
Rotherham is just one town. The scale of this nationally must be horrendous. Even in Scotland which has been relatively unscathed by mass immigration the followers of the Moon God cult are making their mark. This coming within a week of SNP immigration minister, the unelected Humza Yousaf - supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas and not afraid to hide his anti Semitism on his official SNP web page - has called for unfettered mass immigration from Pakistan and the Muslim world. www.scotsman.com/news/scotland/top-stories/rotherham-style-child-abuse-in-scotland-probed-1-3526201
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Post by thehighlandrebel on Aug 31, 2014 19:56:10 GMT
'They start accumulating in countries and then start terrorizing it with gangs of rapists, violence and civil disruption' www.islamlies.com/
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Post by Teddy Bear on Aug 31, 2014 20:45:12 GMT
'They start accumulating in countries and then start terrorizing it with gangs of rapists, violence and civil disruption' They wouldn't be able to do this without organisations like the BBC making it possible. They are the real traitors.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Sept 7, 2014 21:16:48 GMT
While the following article by James Delingpole has nothing directly to do with the BBC, it does show just how prevalent the kind of gang we see in Rotherham are in this country, and how those who are charged with preventing these abusers are also culpable.
When you've read this article ask yourself just why isn't the BBC bringing these facts to the public eye? Do they really think that flying a helicopter over Cliff Richard's house while it is being raided somehow shows the BBC as a force for good against child abuse?
We know that just ain't so.
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Post by charmbrights on Sept 8, 2014 9:25:58 GMT
While the following article by James Delingpole has nothing directly to do with the BBC, it does show just how prevalent the kind of gang we see in Rotherham are in this country, and how those who are charged with preventing these abusers are also culpable. ... Two points: First: Delingpole cites Diane Abbott as an "apologist" for the abuse which, if you actually read her article she is not excusing the actions, just trying to make the same point as I am, that action should be taken against those responsible, instead of accepting their weak protests that "only we can fix it" and "lessons have been learned". Second: Delingpole, by implication, includes the BBC and ITV, both of whom think that the sun shines out of every available exit of Diane Abbot, and that her words are unadulterated truth and light. Incidentally, I think this is the first time in recent years that I have actually agreed with her!
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Post by Teddy Bear on Sept 8, 2014 11:58:50 GMT
What I read in her writing is she claiming that it was more a class issue by the elite dismissing claims by those 'below' them, than it was a matter of PC (political correctness).
I don't agree at all. I don't know whether she is simply unaware of just how 'protected' Muslims are in this country under the PC banner, seeing as she is one of them, or purposefully trying to ignore it, but as we record on this site in nearly every instance where Islam and Muslims are involved in something negative, the BBC, who personify PC paranoia, go to great lengths to eliminate this link.
Islam uses it as part of their agenda, it's called DHIMMI (kowtowing). If I had to make a bet, having seen Abbot's taqqiya (deception - also part of the Islamic agenda) on most other issues, I would say this is just one more and she's well aware of this dhimmi dynamic.
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