Post by Teddy Bear on Feb 26, 2014 20:58:09 GMT
Muslims refer to a particular area in Jerusalem as the Dome of the Rock or Al Aqsa Mosque or Haram al-Sharif (Noble Sanctuary). They call it their 3rd most holiest site in the world, after Mecca and Medina. The reason they claim it's holy is because it's where Mohammed is supposed to have ascended to heaven.
Far be it from me to pour scorn on anybody's beliefs, I believe everybody is entitled to believe whatever they will provided it doesn't hurt anybody else. However if the motive for a particular 'belief' is to gain an advantage over somebody else, and is completely without any proven merit, then I think the natural and normal reaction would be
So considering that Jerusalem does not receive one mention in the whole of the Koran, it's rather spurious that Mohammed somehow chose to ascend to heaven from that spot.
Now as it happens that same spot is one of the holiest areas in the Jewish religion. It's the site of the 1st and 2nd Temples and has numerous mentions, not only in the Old Testament, but also in the New. Is it a coincidence that this same spot is now claimed to be holy to Muslims, or does this highlight a particular strategy on their part to gloss over any Jewish claim to it, and assert themselves there?
Whatever you deduce, you surely would agree that this is a pertinent fact in understanding the dynamics of that region.
So in the following article by the BBC we are told It is holy to Jews because it is the site of the First and Second Temple in ancient times. It is known in Jewish tradition as the "abode of God's presence".
Bear in mind this has been held by Jews for thousands of years without any ulterior motive, it simply was 'the place'.
Then we are told It is also of deep religious, political and national significance to Palestinians and to Muslims around the world, housing the Dome of the Rock and the al-Aqsa mosque.
And what exactly is that 'significance' BBC?
Seems they would rather not mention it.
They also don't explain that until now, despite Jews being aware of the political nature of the Muslim claim to this area, they have given deference to them, and respected the Muslim claim that they also consider it holy. Seeing that they have never been given credit for this, and the Palestinians are still denying Israel to be a Jewish state, Jews are questioning whether deference should continue to be awarded to the Muslims as before.
But you wouldn't know any of this pertinent stuff from the article by the BBC.
See what it's wanting you to think and believe.
Far be it from me to pour scorn on anybody's beliefs, I believe everybody is entitled to believe whatever they will provided it doesn't hurt anybody else. However if the motive for a particular 'belief' is to gain an advantage over somebody else, and is completely without any proven merit, then I think the natural and normal reaction would be
So considering that Jerusalem does not receive one mention in the whole of the Koran, it's rather spurious that Mohammed somehow chose to ascend to heaven from that spot.
Now as it happens that same spot is one of the holiest areas in the Jewish religion. It's the site of the 1st and 2nd Temples and has numerous mentions, not only in the Old Testament, but also in the New. Is it a coincidence that this same spot is now claimed to be holy to Muslims, or does this highlight a particular strategy on their part to gloss over any Jewish claim to it, and assert themselves there?
Whatever you deduce, you surely would agree that this is a pertinent fact in understanding the dynamics of that region.
So in the following article by the BBC we are told It is holy to Jews because it is the site of the First and Second Temple in ancient times. It is known in Jewish tradition as the "abode of God's presence".
Bear in mind this has been held by Jews for thousands of years without any ulterior motive, it simply was 'the place'.
Then we are told It is also of deep religious, political and national significance to Palestinians and to Muslims around the world, housing the Dome of the Rock and the al-Aqsa mosque.
And what exactly is that 'significance' BBC?
Seems they would rather not mention it.
They also don't explain that until now, despite Jews being aware of the political nature of the Muslim claim to this area, they have given deference to them, and respected the Muslim claim that they also consider it holy. Seeing that they have never been given credit for this, and the Palestinians are still denying Israel to be a Jewish state, Jews are questioning whether deference should continue to be awarded to the Muslims as before.
But you wouldn't know any of this pertinent stuff from the article by the BBC.
See what it's wanting you to think and believe.
Israeli police and Palestinians clash on Temple Mount
Israeli police officers scuffle with Palestinians trying to enter the Temple Mount/Haram al-Sharif (25 February 2014)
Palestinians scuffled with Israeli police officers when denied entry to the site after the morning's unrest
Israeli police have clashed with Palestinian protesters on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.
A police spokesman said about 20 youths threw stones and fireworks at officers from the holy site, known to Muslims as the Haram al-Sharif (Noble Sanctuary).
Police then entered the compound and arrested three people, he added.
The unrest came as the Israeli parliament prepared to debate a motion calling on Israel to "realise its sovereignty over the Temple Mount".
Moshe Feiglin, a right-wing member of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party who tabled the motion, wants restrictions on Jewish visitors to be lifted. They are currently barred from praying or engaging in other religious activities there.
Although no vote was expected, the the Islamic Waqf - the trust that has overseen the site since Israel captured East Jerusalem from Jordan in the 1967 Middle East war - expressed concern and said there had been "Jordanian contacts with Israel to prevent any moves" affecting its status.
The Temple Mount/Haram al-Sharif compound, in the Old City in East Jerusalem, covers an area of 35 acres (14 hectares).
It is holy to Jews because it is the site of the First and Second Temple in ancient times. It is known in Jewish tradition as the "abode of God's presence".
It is also of deep religious, political and national significance to Palestinians and to Muslims around the world, housing the Dome of the Rock and the al-Aqsa mosque.
The Palestinian protesters were said to have gathered at the site on Tuesday morning because of rumours that Jewish extremists were planning to raise the Israeli flag there.
When Israeli police arrived to open the Moughrabi, or Moors', Gate just after 07:30 (05:30 GMT), they were attacked by the protesters, police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said.
The officers responded by storming the compound and firing stun grenades and tear gas.
Three protesters were arrested, several others were treated for tear-gas inhalation and two police officers were lightly injured, Mr Rosenfeld added. One report cited Palestinian medics as saying 15 protesters had been hurt by rubber bullets, but Mr Rosenfeld denied that any were fired.
Azzam al-Khatib, director of the Islamic Waqf, said he had called for the closure of the Moughrabi Gate because of the "provocations and statements against Muslims by various right-wing parties".
Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas condemned what he called "continuous Israeli incursions".
"Such assaults are not only a danger to holy places but also create an atmosphere that will increase violence and hatred and convert the conflict into a dangerous religious conflict," a statement said.
Israeli police officers scuffle with Palestinians trying to enter the Temple Mount/Haram al-Sharif (25 February 2014)
Palestinians scuffled with Israeli police officers when denied entry to the site after the morning's unrest
Israeli police have clashed with Palestinian protesters on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.
A police spokesman said about 20 youths threw stones and fireworks at officers from the holy site, known to Muslims as the Haram al-Sharif (Noble Sanctuary).
Police then entered the compound and arrested three people, he added.
The unrest came as the Israeli parliament prepared to debate a motion calling on Israel to "realise its sovereignty over the Temple Mount".
Moshe Feiglin, a right-wing member of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party who tabled the motion, wants restrictions on Jewish visitors to be lifted. They are currently barred from praying or engaging in other religious activities there.
Although no vote was expected, the the Islamic Waqf - the trust that has overseen the site since Israel captured East Jerusalem from Jordan in the 1967 Middle East war - expressed concern and said there had been "Jordanian contacts with Israel to prevent any moves" affecting its status.
The Temple Mount/Haram al-Sharif compound, in the Old City in East Jerusalem, covers an area of 35 acres (14 hectares).
It is holy to Jews because it is the site of the First and Second Temple in ancient times. It is known in Jewish tradition as the "abode of God's presence".
It is also of deep religious, political and national significance to Palestinians and to Muslims around the world, housing the Dome of the Rock and the al-Aqsa mosque.
The Palestinian protesters were said to have gathered at the site on Tuesday morning because of rumours that Jewish extremists were planning to raise the Israeli flag there.
When Israeli police arrived to open the Moughrabi, or Moors', Gate just after 07:30 (05:30 GMT), they were attacked by the protesters, police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said.
The officers responded by storming the compound and firing stun grenades and tear gas.
Three protesters were arrested, several others were treated for tear-gas inhalation and two police officers were lightly injured, Mr Rosenfeld added. One report cited Palestinian medics as saying 15 protesters had been hurt by rubber bullets, but Mr Rosenfeld denied that any were fired.
Azzam al-Khatib, director of the Islamic Waqf, said he had called for the closure of the Moughrabi Gate because of the "provocations and statements against Muslims by various right-wing parties".
Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas condemned what he called "continuous Israeli incursions".
"Such assaults are not only a danger to holy places but also create an atmosphere that will increase violence and hatred and convert the conflict into a dangerous religious conflict," a statement said.