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[jeff456]

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4746106.stm

There's a few omissions in this article.

Can anyone tell me what they are?...said Florence.

Ok, if the BBC are happy to mutter about white gangs, why so coy about white women raped and threatened?

[Teddy Bear]

Hi Jeff, and welcome to the forum.
It's so refreshing to hear politicians telling it like it is, even if the BBC want to downplay the facts. We could use more politicians like that here. If they're down under, we must be at the bottom.

Notice the line: "Islamic leaders have accused Peter Costello of deliberately whipping up more fear and religious hatred.

They have claimed it is further evidence that the government is no longer committed to multi-culturalism. "

The type of Muslims who make this comment, are not those interested in multiculturalism. They're very tongue-in-cheek avoidance of understanding the reasons why politicians make these kind of statements proves that. I'm sure all Muslims who do want to integrate into a democratic society fully approve of these Australian leaders.

[jeff456]

Hi Bear

Thanks for the welcome.

I'd rather agree your comment that these 'leaders' of a Muslim community, wherever that may be, are basically running their own agenda.

I susoect that most Muslims in the developed world couldn't give a damn about the posturing and just get on with their lives.

I really have trouble being worried about the Islamofascist threat to be honest. As a political theory or lifestyle preference it's dead before it starts anywhere outside of the dirt poor countries of the M.E. On a per capita basis by the way that's all of them including the oil producers. For example, Thailand has a better per capita GDP than Iran:)

[Teddy Bear]

I wish I could agree that there was no reason to worry about the Islamofascist threat. I can agree with you that their ideology is not attractive to our society, but it is not for that reason I see reason to fear. It is that many of our journalists, politicians, and others including 'historians' (like David Irving) are anxious to appease them.
Whether as a result of bribes, or the knowledge that they gain an immediate acceptance by mouthing the desired Islamic line, or both, there seems to be many wishing to jump on this bandwagon. In doing so they corrupt our society to allow these extremist views to foment. The appeal for many is that they have +1.6 billion individuals around the world who will applaud and welcome them.
Another aspect to consider is that living in a democratic society with a low birth rate by most of its adherents, it is only a matter of time before these fundamentalists become the majority. In this way their idealogy will be enforced, and what do you think will prevent it?

Recent examples of this, include the one you observed above yourself, as well as the Anglican Church imposing sanctions on doing business with Israeli companies? Or Kofi Annan stating he was "disappointed and chagrined' by the bombing of the Iraqi mosque recently.

It is sickening to see the Islamists flourish and gain influence through these insidious organisations and companies who seek to prosper or safeguard themselves by assisting them, and while most intelligent beings will resist Islamofascist propaganda, the abilty to resist is slowly being eroded.

So why aren't you worried, and what do you think will cause the ability to resist this threat?