Post by d880f3 on Jun 30, 2007 22:02:30 GMT
It is hard to know when one is being over-sensitive, as so often when a complaint is made it is rebuffed by 'stop living on the memory of the holocaust and crying victim' type crap, and I do try not to fall into over-sensitive misinterpretations of perfectly innocent comments, articles etc.
However, this is the opening to the BBC Religion and Ethics - Islam page (www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/):
Islam began in Arabia and was revealed to humanity by the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Those who follow Islam are called Muslims.
This is the opening to the same page about the Joos (www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/judaism/):
Jews believe that God appointed the Jews to be his chosen people in order to set an example of holiness and ethical behaviour to the world.
In this case it certainly seems that one introduction is a description of the conception of a religion presented as fact "...and was revealed to humanity by the Prophet..." - apparently Muslims don't believe that Muhammed revealed the religion, or that he was a prophet, this is a given fact - emphasised by the capital 'P' in prophet - whereas the other is a comment on one aspect of Judaism and written so as to make certain that the veracity of this belief is clearly to be doubted "Jews believe that..." (leaving the unspoken rejoinder "but the rest of us don't") and clearly opening the entire description of Judaism with a comment that can very easily be taken negatively (i.e. in terms of "what a bunch of self-righteous twats") as, although true in essence, it is presented entirely out of context.
If they have to open with one Jewish belief picked out of many, and based on the relationship of the Jewish people to the rest of the world, how about "Judaism is the first monotheistic religion, based around the ten commandments it is believed that all whom follow these basic laws will enter heaven, whether Jewish or Gentile." Wouldn't that be just as relevant to non-Jews reading the site, possibly with little to no knowledge of Judaism?
Further, add to this that the BBC, quite rightly, write on the Islam page '(pbuh)' after every mention of Muhammed as this is according to Muslim sensibilities and all Muslims assiduously adhere to this policy, but on the Judaism page consistently write 'G-d' in its fullness, despite the fact that Jews equally as assiduously avoid ever writing this, thus railroading Jewish sensibilities.
To be fair, one should look at their opening of other religions, maybe just to look at two is picking and choosing conveniently.
Christianity: Christianity is the world's biggest religion, with about 2.1 billion followers worldwide. It is based on the teachings of Jesus Christ who lived in the Holy Land 2,000 years ago.
Bahai: The Bahá'í faith is one of the youngest of the world's major religions. It was founded by Baha'u'llah in Iran in the 19th century.
Buddhism: Buddhism is a tradition that focuses on personal spiritual development. Buddhists strive for a deep insight into the true nature of life and do not worship gods or deities.
Shinto: Shinto has no known founder or single sacred scripture. Shinto is wholly devoted to life in this world and emphasises man's essential goodness.
Sikhism: Sikhism was founded in the Punjab by Guru Nanak and is a monotheistic religion. Sikhs think religion should be practiced by living in the world and coping with life's everyday problems.
Zoroastrianism: Zoroastrianism is one of the world's oldest monotheistic religions. It was founded by the prophet Zoroaster in ancient Iran approximately 3500 years ago.
Interesting.
Particularly if you pay close attention to the fact that apparently Zoroaster doesn't warrant a capital 'P' in his title which would, at the least, display a certain consistency.
Further Zoroastrianism was apparently founded in Iran, but Christianity in 'the Holy Land', not Israel. Yes, it's true that at the time Israel was called Judea, but this is the land in which Christianity was founded, just as although Zoroastrianism was founded in Aryanam now the land is called Iran, so why the inconsistency?
So we see several fairly factual representations, one seemingly pro and one that definitely holds negative connotations, and a series of inconsistencies.
And then the BBC spend hundreds of thousands of pounds preventing the release of the Balen report and yet still refutes all accusations of anti-semitism or pro-Islam in its reporting.
Cunts.
Thanks for your time,
Nik
However, this is the opening to the BBC Religion and Ethics - Islam page (www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/):
Islam began in Arabia and was revealed to humanity by the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Those who follow Islam are called Muslims.
This is the opening to the same page about the Joos (www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/judaism/):
Jews believe that God appointed the Jews to be his chosen people in order to set an example of holiness and ethical behaviour to the world.
In this case it certainly seems that one introduction is a description of the conception of a religion presented as fact "...and was revealed to humanity by the Prophet..." - apparently Muslims don't believe that Muhammed revealed the religion, or that he was a prophet, this is a given fact - emphasised by the capital 'P' in prophet - whereas the other is a comment on one aspect of Judaism and written so as to make certain that the veracity of this belief is clearly to be doubted "Jews believe that..." (leaving the unspoken rejoinder "but the rest of us don't") and clearly opening the entire description of Judaism with a comment that can very easily be taken negatively (i.e. in terms of "what a bunch of self-righteous twats") as, although true in essence, it is presented entirely out of context.
If they have to open with one Jewish belief picked out of many, and based on the relationship of the Jewish people to the rest of the world, how about "Judaism is the first monotheistic religion, based around the ten commandments it is believed that all whom follow these basic laws will enter heaven, whether Jewish or Gentile." Wouldn't that be just as relevant to non-Jews reading the site, possibly with little to no knowledge of Judaism?
Further, add to this that the BBC, quite rightly, write on the Islam page '(pbuh)' after every mention of Muhammed as this is according to Muslim sensibilities and all Muslims assiduously adhere to this policy, but on the Judaism page consistently write 'G-d' in its fullness, despite the fact that Jews equally as assiduously avoid ever writing this, thus railroading Jewish sensibilities.
To be fair, one should look at their opening of other religions, maybe just to look at two is picking and choosing conveniently.
Christianity: Christianity is the world's biggest religion, with about 2.1 billion followers worldwide. It is based on the teachings of Jesus Christ who lived in the Holy Land 2,000 years ago.
Bahai: The Bahá'í faith is one of the youngest of the world's major religions. It was founded by Baha'u'llah in Iran in the 19th century.
Buddhism: Buddhism is a tradition that focuses on personal spiritual development. Buddhists strive for a deep insight into the true nature of life and do not worship gods or deities.
Shinto: Shinto has no known founder or single sacred scripture. Shinto is wholly devoted to life in this world and emphasises man's essential goodness.
Sikhism: Sikhism was founded in the Punjab by Guru Nanak and is a monotheistic religion. Sikhs think religion should be practiced by living in the world and coping with life's everyday problems.
Zoroastrianism: Zoroastrianism is one of the world's oldest monotheistic religions. It was founded by the prophet Zoroaster in ancient Iran approximately 3500 years ago.
Interesting.
Particularly if you pay close attention to the fact that apparently Zoroaster doesn't warrant a capital 'P' in his title which would, at the least, display a certain consistency.
Further Zoroastrianism was apparently founded in Iran, but Christianity in 'the Holy Land', not Israel. Yes, it's true that at the time Israel was called Judea, but this is the land in which Christianity was founded, just as although Zoroastrianism was founded in Aryanam now the land is called Iran, so why the inconsistency?
So we see several fairly factual representations, one seemingly pro and one that definitely holds negative connotations, and a series of inconsistencies.
And then the BBC spend hundreds of thousands of pounds preventing the release of the Balen report and yet still refutes all accusations of anti-semitism or pro-Islam in its reporting.
Cunts.
Thanks for your time,
Nik
