Post by marky on Dec 27, 2010 2:22:25 GMT
BBC: The Freedom Association is ‘a posher version of the BNP’
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The BBC responds...
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The BBC defends likening the Freedom Association to the BNP
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See also... This Biased BBC Post
'Comedy' is the BBC's greatest political weapons where almost anything goes especially if it fits in with the BBC’s groupthink. Which is fine if you’re not forced to pay for it. There's nothing 'light hearted' about the speculation that Norris McWhirter was "a brownshirt with Mosley" or that The Freedom Association is "a very, very right-wing, kind of sub-BNP, slightly posher version of the BNP organisation". All it highlights is the light-headedness of the BBC's biased, left-wing, so-called comedians, which is seldom balanced by any shade of 'light hearted' political 'comedy' other than left-wing chicanery.
David Baddiel was interviewed earlier today by Alan Davies on BBC Radio 5, to talk about his new film The Norris McWhirter Chronicles, to be screened in the ‘Little Cracker’s season of festive films over the Christmas period.
The Norris McWhirter Chronicles covers a visit Norris made to David Baddiel’s school, the Haberdashers' Aske's Boys' School in Elstree, in 1978. Roy Castle’s Record Breakers was at the height of its popularity, and the latest guest speaker at teenage David Baddiel’s school is none other than editor of the Guinness Book of Records, Norris McWhirter, played (by all accounts very creditably) by Alistair McGowan.
But during the Radio 5 interview is an appalling misrepresentation by Baddiel of The Freedom Association, which Norris established in 1975 with his twin brother Ross and Viscount De L'Isle. The Association is at the forefront of campaigning in defence of personal and political freedom.
Yet Baddiel refers to it as ‘a very, very right-wing, kind of sub-BNP, slightly posher version of the BNP organisation’ (Radio 5 1h 23m in).
Alan Davies then proceeds to conjecture if Norris McWhirter was ‘a brown shirt with Mosley’
‘Brown-shirt’ is neo-Nazi vocabulary: Mosley’s British Union of Fascists instituted a corps of black-uniformed paramilitary stewards, nicknamed blackshirts, which is probably what Alan Davies meant.
Nazi brown or Fascist black, this slander of Norris McWhirter is quite outrageous.
But maybe it is quite unsurprising coming from the BBC which even its own Director General admits is guilty of ‘massive’ left-wing bias.
Perhaps in Luvviedom, TFA is akin to the BNP.
But Norris was in showbiz through three decades, working tirelessly for the BBC on Record Breakers until the death of Roy Castle in 1994.
One might expect the BBC at least to honour his memory and respect his magnificent contribution to the programme, not to mention show a little respect for his remarkable achievement in co-founding the Guinness Book of Records.
But here we have Alan Davies and David Baddiel trashing the honour and reputation of one of the nation’s finest.
It is easy to speak ill of the dead.
When he passed away, The Freedom Association was inundated with messages of sympathy and tributes to the man, his life and his work:
Baroness Thatcher: “…He was a man who cherished freedom and was never afraid to speak out when he felt that it was in danger. He championed its cause throughout his life, taking up alone the challenge which he and Ross had shared. Whether it was in defying over-mighty Soviet Communism or in trimming the power of local bureaucrats, Norris was tireless. He saw the dangers to the individual whenever the state, or other large institutions, intruded further into peoples lives – eroding responsibility and fostering dependency. Above all he was always on his guard against systems, and their proponents, who sought to lessen freedom. Truly, he was a valiant warrior, and life is diminished with his passing.”
Andrew Roberts: “The great 19th century historian Lord Acton was going to write A History of Liberty, but died before he completed the research. One day it shall be written, and when it is a golden, glorious chapter will be devoted to what Norris McWhirter did for all of us.”
Christopher Gill: “…Norris was a man of great courage, enormous integrity and a fearless campaigner for individual freedom and national independence. He was a man of principle, a truly honourable man but above all else, a committed and sincere patriot. As a champion of freedom he was a beacon of hope whose sudden and unexpected extinguishment will be an irreplaceable loss to the the cause for which he gave so much.”
Gerald Howarth MP: “…Norris's determined, unwavering and principled stand in defence of the ancient liberties of Her Majesty's subjects was an inspiration to all who shared his love of freedom. His campaign to protect the rights of the British people against those who would hand power to others on the Continent played a part in shifting public opinion.”
Robert Halfon MP: “A great and kind man who did so much for the cause of freedom and fought so hard to stop Britain being submerged into a European superstate.”
Professor Patrick Minford CBE: “…Norris was one of the earliest to understand the threat to the interests of the UK and indeed those of ordinary Europeans from the European Union and its burgeoning bureaucracy. He worked with others in the early 1990s to spread understanding among MPs and the general public about the economic and political threat. He took the government to court for its actions in betraying British sovereignty. He was a pioneer in the ongoing endeavour to turn the tide against this dangerous project, once thought ‘inevitable’ but now increasingly seen as seriously damaging in the absence of a massive change of EU policies.”
Roger Foster OBE: “…As a founder member of the Freedom Association, working with Norris to set up our own charter I remember so well his determination that the Magna Carta had to be the basis of our charter for the rights of the British people to live their own lives in the way they wanted and not be controlled by rules and regulations. His equal determination through the Association, was to try to bring the government closer to and more understanding of the people who had elected them to govern….”
John Redwood MP: “…he will best be remembered for his courageous fight to maintain real democracy in Britain. Norris was never too busy to take up a cause. He fought against abuses of power here in Britain and for the rights of Soviet dissidents. He fought against the signing of the Maastricht Treaty and against subliminal advertising. As the head of the National Association for Freedom, he supported parents who were desperately trying to keep grammar schools going and he took up the cases of workers who were sacked because they refused to join a union. Norris richly deserved the CBE awarded to him when Margaret Thatcher became Prime Minister.”
And there are very many more tributes to Norris McWhirter on The Freedom Association website. He was not only a good man: he was tenacious for liberty, principled for freedom, a distinguished all-rounder; he was great.
Yet despite all this praise, respect and reverence, the BBC is content to broadcast an interview in which he is tarnished with neo-Nazi and fascist allusions, and in which The Freedom Association is portrayed as BNP-lite.
His Grace is really quite outraged, and would like to encourage his readers and communicants to make a formal complaint to the BBC, demanding a full apology for Alan Davies' slander of Norris McWhirter and David Baddiel's quite outrageous and unwarranted attack on The Freedom Association.
You may do so by clicking HERE.
The Norris McWhirter Chronicles covers a visit Norris made to David Baddiel’s school, the Haberdashers' Aske's Boys' School in Elstree, in 1978. Roy Castle’s Record Breakers was at the height of its popularity, and the latest guest speaker at teenage David Baddiel’s school is none other than editor of the Guinness Book of Records, Norris McWhirter, played (by all accounts very creditably) by Alistair McGowan.
But during the Radio 5 interview is an appalling misrepresentation by Baddiel of The Freedom Association, which Norris established in 1975 with his twin brother Ross and Viscount De L'Isle. The Association is at the forefront of campaigning in defence of personal and political freedom.
Yet Baddiel refers to it as ‘a very, very right-wing, kind of sub-BNP, slightly posher version of the BNP organisation’ (Radio 5 1h 23m in).
Alan Davies then proceeds to conjecture if Norris McWhirter was ‘a brown shirt with Mosley’
‘Brown-shirt’ is neo-Nazi vocabulary: Mosley’s British Union of Fascists instituted a corps of black-uniformed paramilitary stewards, nicknamed blackshirts, which is probably what Alan Davies meant.
Nazi brown or Fascist black, this slander of Norris McWhirter is quite outrageous.
But maybe it is quite unsurprising coming from the BBC which even its own Director General admits is guilty of ‘massive’ left-wing bias.
Perhaps in Luvviedom, TFA is akin to the BNP.
But Norris was in showbiz through three decades, working tirelessly for the BBC on Record Breakers until the death of Roy Castle in 1994.
One might expect the BBC at least to honour his memory and respect his magnificent contribution to the programme, not to mention show a little respect for his remarkable achievement in co-founding the Guinness Book of Records.
But here we have Alan Davies and David Baddiel trashing the honour and reputation of one of the nation’s finest.
It is easy to speak ill of the dead.
When he passed away, The Freedom Association was inundated with messages of sympathy and tributes to the man, his life and his work:
Baroness Thatcher: “…He was a man who cherished freedom and was never afraid to speak out when he felt that it was in danger. He championed its cause throughout his life, taking up alone the challenge which he and Ross had shared. Whether it was in defying over-mighty Soviet Communism or in trimming the power of local bureaucrats, Norris was tireless. He saw the dangers to the individual whenever the state, or other large institutions, intruded further into peoples lives – eroding responsibility and fostering dependency. Above all he was always on his guard against systems, and their proponents, who sought to lessen freedom. Truly, he was a valiant warrior, and life is diminished with his passing.”
Andrew Roberts: “The great 19th century historian Lord Acton was going to write A History of Liberty, but died before he completed the research. One day it shall be written, and when it is a golden, glorious chapter will be devoted to what Norris McWhirter did for all of us.”
Christopher Gill: “…Norris was a man of great courage, enormous integrity and a fearless campaigner for individual freedom and national independence. He was a man of principle, a truly honourable man but above all else, a committed and sincere patriot. As a champion of freedom he was a beacon of hope whose sudden and unexpected extinguishment will be an irreplaceable loss to the the cause for which he gave so much.”
Gerald Howarth MP: “…Norris's determined, unwavering and principled stand in defence of the ancient liberties of Her Majesty's subjects was an inspiration to all who shared his love of freedom. His campaign to protect the rights of the British people against those who would hand power to others on the Continent played a part in shifting public opinion.”
Robert Halfon MP: “A great and kind man who did so much for the cause of freedom and fought so hard to stop Britain being submerged into a European superstate.”
Professor Patrick Minford CBE: “…Norris was one of the earliest to understand the threat to the interests of the UK and indeed those of ordinary Europeans from the European Union and its burgeoning bureaucracy. He worked with others in the early 1990s to spread understanding among MPs and the general public about the economic and political threat. He took the government to court for its actions in betraying British sovereignty. He was a pioneer in the ongoing endeavour to turn the tide against this dangerous project, once thought ‘inevitable’ but now increasingly seen as seriously damaging in the absence of a massive change of EU policies.”
Roger Foster OBE: “…As a founder member of the Freedom Association, working with Norris to set up our own charter I remember so well his determination that the Magna Carta had to be the basis of our charter for the rights of the British people to live their own lives in the way they wanted and not be controlled by rules and regulations. His equal determination through the Association, was to try to bring the government closer to and more understanding of the people who had elected them to govern….”
John Redwood MP: “…he will best be remembered for his courageous fight to maintain real democracy in Britain. Norris was never too busy to take up a cause. He fought against abuses of power here in Britain and for the rights of Soviet dissidents. He fought against the signing of the Maastricht Treaty and against subliminal advertising. As the head of the National Association for Freedom, he supported parents who were desperately trying to keep grammar schools going and he took up the cases of workers who were sacked because they refused to join a union. Norris richly deserved the CBE awarded to him when Margaret Thatcher became Prime Minister.”
And there are very many more tributes to Norris McWhirter on The Freedom Association website. He was not only a good man: he was tenacious for liberty, principled for freedom, a distinguished all-rounder; he was great.
Yet despite all this praise, respect and reverence, the BBC is content to broadcast an interview in which he is tarnished with neo-Nazi and fascist allusions, and in which The Freedom Association is portrayed as BNP-lite.
His Grace is really quite outraged, and would like to encourage his readers and communicants to make a formal complaint to the BBC, demanding a full apology for Alan Davies' slander of Norris McWhirter and David Baddiel's quite outrageous and unwarranted attack on The Freedom Association.
You may do so by clicking HERE.
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The BBC responds...
His Grace is delighted to say that he has received a very prompt response from the BBC to his complaint concerning the outrageous remarks made by David Baddiel and Alan Davies on The Freedom Association and the late great Norris McWhirter CBE. It reads:
Dear Dr Cranmer
Thank you for contacting us regarding remarks made by David Baddiel about Norris McWhirter and the Freedom Association on The Alan Davies Show on BBC Radio 5 Live broadcast on Saturday 18 December.
On the show David Baddiel was discussing a television film he has recently made entitled 'The Norris McWhirter Chronicles'. The film centres around a speech that Mr McWhirter made at David Baddiel's school in the 1970s. The young Baddiel had expected a talk about the then popular TV programme 'Record Breakers' and was disappointed that Mr McWhirter's speech was of a political nature. The comments made by David Baddiel were quite clearly his personal description of Mr McWhirter's political allegiances.
The Alan Davies Show is a live, light hearted, entertainment programme and in this context we are satisfied that no broadcasting guidelines were broken.
Thanks again for taking the time to contact us.
Kind Regards
BBC Audience Services
It was very kind of them to take the trouble. His Grace is indebted to some of his communicants who also wrote to the BBC about this matter. They, too, have received a response:
Dear Mr A-D
Thank you for contacting us regarding remarks made by David Baddiel about Norris McWhirter and the Freedom Association on The Alan Davies Show on BBC Radio 5 Live broadcast on Saturday 18 December.
On the show David Baddiel was discussing a television film he has recently made entitled 'The Norris McWhirter Chronicles'. The film centres around a speech that Mr McWhirter made at David Baddiel's school in the 1970s. The young Baddiel had expected a talk about the then popular TV programme 'Record Breakers' and was disappointed that Mr McWhirter's speech was of a political nature. The comments made by David Baddiel were quite clearly his personal description of Mr McWhirter's political allegiances.
The Alan Davies Show is a live, light hearted, entertainment programme and in this context we are satisfied that no broadcasting guidelines were broken.
Thanks again for taking the time to contact us.
Kind Regards
BBC Audience Services
And another:
Dear Mr N
Thank you for contacting us regarding remarks made by David Baddiel about Norris McWhirter and the Freedom Association on The Alan Davies Show on BBC Radio 5 Live broadcast on Saturday 18 December.
On the show David Baddiel was discussing a television film he has recently made entitled 'The Norris McWhirter Chronicles'. The film centres around a speech that Mr McWhirter made at David Baddiel's school in the 1970s. The young Baddiel had expected a talk about the then popular TV programme 'Record Breakers' and was disappointed that Mr McWhirter's speech was of a political nature. The comments made by David Baddiel were quite clearly his personal description of Mr McWhirter's political allegiances.
The Alan Davies Show is a live, light hearted, entertainment programme and in this context we are satisfied that no broadcasting guidelines were broken.
Thanks again for taking the time to contact us.
Kind Regards
BBC Audience Services
In their emails to His Grace, these communicants ask:
Mr A-D: 'I don't know what else to do at this point, except sigh at the entrenched bias in the BBC. What does a "personal description of Mr McWhirter's political allegiances" even mean? Baddiel is entitled to his own opinions, but not his own facts.'
Mr N: 'I'm not surprised. Appalled, but not surprised.'
If the BBC thinks it can get away with simply cutting and pasting the same crass response to those who have complained on this matter, they show themselves to be quite contemptible in their attitide to those who fund the corporation. A monkey can cut 'n' paste; and this response is so lacking in adequate content that a monkey could have written it. What they are essentially saying is that any BBC employee or interviewee can give a 'personal description' of 'political allegiances' irrespective of the facts, and they may do so with impunity.
This being the case, why did the BBC apologise to the Muslim Council of Britain and pay them £30,000 of taxpayers' money in compensation for remarks made by Charles Moore on Question Time? Why was Mr Moore not permitted to articulate a 'personal description' of the behaviour of the MCB? Why does the BBC readily acknowledge 'injury to feelings' when it comes to some minority groups or organisations of 'the Left', but is evidently of the view that the family and friends of Norris McWhirter and members of The Freedom Association do not live with bread like them; do not feel want, taste grief, or need friends.
Truthfully, His Grace finds it difficult to understand why The Freedom Association has not received an immediate apology and £30,000 in compensation.
The is the British Broadcasting Corporation; a national institution with a Royal Charter. Surely one does not have to conspire in terrorism against the state; or treason against Her Majesty's Armed Forces; or threaten physical violence or criminal damage, in order to obtain justice from its hallowed chambers.
Dear Dr Cranmer
Thank you for contacting us regarding remarks made by David Baddiel about Norris McWhirter and the Freedom Association on The Alan Davies Show on BBC Radio 5 Live broadcast on Saturday 18 December.
On the show David Baddiel was discussing a television film he has recently made entitled 'The Norris McWhirter Chronicles'. The film centres around a speech that Mr McWhirter made at David Baddiel's school in the 1970s. The young Baddiel had expected a talk about the then popular TV programme 'Record Breakers' and was disappointed that Mr McWhirter's speech was of a political nature. The comments made by David Baddiel were quite clearly his personal description of Mr McWhirter's political allegiances.
The Alan Davies Show is a live, light hearted, entertainment programme and in this context we are satisfied that no broadcasting guidelines were broken.
Thanks again for taking the time to contact us.
Kind Regards
BBC Audience Services
It was very kind of them to take the trouble. His Grace is indebted to some of his communicants who also wrote to the BBC about this matter. They, too, have received a response:
Dear Mr A-D
Thank you for contacting us regarding remarks made by David Baddiel about Norris McWhirter and the Freedom Association on The Alan Davies Show on BBC Radio 5 Live broadcast on Saturday 18 December.
On the show David Baddiel was discussing a television film he has recently made entitled 'The Norris McWhirter Chronicles'. The film centres around a speech that Mr McWhirter made at David Baddiel's school in the 1970s. The young Baddiel had expected a talk about the then popular TV programme 'Record Breakers' and was disappointed that Mr McWhirter's speech was of a political nature. The comments made by David Baddiel were quite clearly his personal description of Mr McWhirter's political allegiances.
The Alan Davies Show is a live, light hearted, entertainment programme and in this context we are satisfied that no broadcasting guidelines were broken.
Thanks again for taking the time to contact us.
Kind Regards
BBC Audience Services
And another:
Dear Mr N
Thank you for contacting us regarding remarks made by David Baddiel about Norris McWhirter and the Freedom Association on The Alan Davies Show on BBC Radio 5 Live broadcast on Saturday 18 December.
On the show David Baddiel was discussing a television film he has recently made entitled 'The Norris McWhirter Chronicles'. The film centres around a speech that Mr McWhirter made at David Baddiel's school in the 1970s. The young Baddiel had expected a talk about the then popular TV programme 'Record Breakers' and was disappointed that Mr McWhirter's speech was of a political nature. The comments made by David Baddiel were quite clearly his personal description of Mr McWhirter's political allegiances.
The Alan Davies Show is a live, light hearted, entertainment programme and in this context we are satisfied that no broadcasting guidelines were broken.
Thanks again for taking the time to contact us.
Kind Regards
BBC Audience Services
In their emails to His Grace, these communicants ask:
Mr A-D: 'I don't know what else to do at this point, except sigh at the entrenched bias in the BBC. What does a "personal description of Mr McWhirter's political allegiances" even mean? Baddiel is entitled to his own opinions, but not his own facts.'
Mr N: 'I'm not surprised. Appalled, but not surprised.'
If the BBC thinks it can get away with simply cutting and pasting the same crass response to those who have complained on this matter, they show themselves to be quite contemptible in their attitide to those who fund the corporation. A monkey can cut 'n' paste; and this response is so lacking in adequate content that a monkey could have written it. What they are essentially saying is that any BBC employee or interviewee can give a 'personal description' of 'political allegiances' irrespective of the facts, and they may do so with impunity.
This being the case, why did the BBC apologise to the Muslim Council of Britain and pay them £30,000 of taxpayers' money in compensation for remarks made by Charles Moore on Question Time? Why was Mr Moore not permitted to articulate a 'personal description' of the behaviour of the MCB? Why does the BBC readily acknowledge 'injury to feelings' when it comes to some minority groups or organisations of 'the Left', but is evidently of the view that the family and friends of Norris McWhirter and members of The Freedom Association do not live with bread like them; do not feel want, taste grief, or need friends.
Truthfully, His Grace finds it difficult to understand why The Freedom Association has not received an immediate apology and £30,000 in compensation.
The is the British Broadcasting Corporation; a national institution with a Royal Charter. Surely one does not have to conspire in terrorism against the state; or treason against Her Majesty's Armed Forces; or threaten physical violence or criminal damage, in order to obtain justice from its hallowed chambers.
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The BBC defends likening the Freedom Association to the BNP
The BBC has replied to my complaint about David Baddiel’s claim that the Freedom Association was a “slightly posher version of the BNP“. Top marks for a swift response, I suppose, if for little else. Here is the email in full:
Dear Mr Hannan,
Thank you for contacting us regarding remarks made by David Baddiel about Norris McWhirter and the Freedom Association on The Alan Davies Show on BBC Radio 5 Live broadcast on Saturday 18 December.
On the show David Baddiel was discussing a television film he has recently made entitled ‘The Norris McWhirter Chronicles’. The film centres around a speech that Mr McWhirter made at David Baddiel’s school in the 1970s. The young Baddiel had expected a talk about the then popular TV programme ‘Record Breakers’ and was disappointed that Mr McWhirter’s speech was of a political nature. The comments made by David Baddiel were quite clearly his personal description of Mr McWhirter’s political allegiances.
The Alan Davies Show is a live, light hearted, entertainment programme and in this context we are satisfied that no broadcasting guidelines were broken.
Thanks again for taking the time to contact us.
Kind Regards
BBC Audience Services
Ninety per cent of this response is taken up with telling me what was said – which I already know, obviously, or I wouldn’t have made the complaint. The closest thing to a defence comes in the final sentence: it was a live, light-hearted programme. Well, yes, I had gathered that. Et alors?
A fundamentally decent man, a man who had served his country in the war against Nazism and had been awarded the CBE, was traduced on air, linked to Mosley and compared to the BNP. No one challenged the remarks: on the contrary, Alan Davies, the presenter, amplified them. But it’s OK, apparently, because it’s lighthearted.
Fair enough. Still, can you imagine BBC comedians making equivalent remarks about a Left-of-Centre campaigner: Helena Kennedy, say, or Shami Chakrabati? Silly question, really.
Dear Mr Hannan,
Thank you for contacting us regarding remarks made by David Baddiel about Norris McWhirter and the Freedom Association on The Alan Davies Show on BBC Radio 5 Live broadcast on Saturday 18 December.
On the show David Baddiel was discussing a television film he has recently made entitled ‘The Norris McWhirter Chronicles’. The film centres around a speech that Mr McWhirter made at David Baddiel’s school in the 1970s. The young Baddiel had expected a talk about the then popular TV programme ‘Record Breakers’ and was disappointed that Mr McWhirter’s speech was of a political nature. The comments made by David Baddiel were quite clearly his personal description of Mr McWhirter’s political allegiances.
The Alan Davies Show is a live, light hearted, entertainment programme and in this context we are satisfied that no broadcasting guidelines were broken.
Thanks again for taking the time to contact us.
Kind Regards
BBC Audience Services
Ninety per cent of this response is taken up with telling me what was said – which I already know, obviously, or I wouldn’t have made the complaint. The closest thing to a defence comes in the final sentence: it was a live, light-hearted programme. Well, yes, I had gathered that. Et alors?
A fundamentally decent man, a man who had served his country in the war against Nazism and had been awarded the CBE, was traduced on air, linked to Mosley and compared to the BNP. No one challenged the remarks: on the contrary, Alan Davies, the presenter, amplified them. But it’s OK, apparently, because it’s lighthearted.
Fair enough. Still, can you imagine BBC comedians making equivalent remarks about a Left-of-Centre campaigner: Helena Kennedy, say, or Shami Chakrabati? Silly question, really.
Link to Article
See also... This Biased BBC Post
'Comedy' is the BBC's greatest political weapons where almost anything goes especially if it fits in with the BBC’s groupthink. Which is fine if you’re not forced to pay for it. There's nothing 'light hearted' about the speculation that Norris McWhirter was "a brownshirt with Mosley" or that The Freedom Association is "a very, very right-wing, kind of sub-BNP, slightly posher version of the BNP organisation". All it highlights is the light-headedness of the BBC's biased, left-wing, so-called comedians, which is seldom balanced by any shade of 'light hearted' political 'comedy' other than left-wing chicanery.