Post by Teddy Bear on May 23, 2013 20:39:22 GMT
I'm sure everybody reading this will be aware of the incident yesterday where a soldier was viciously run over then hacked to death by 2 Islamic terrorists.
A senior Whitehall source speaking to Nick Robinson of the BBC told him that given they had attacked a soldier without provocation, and had shouted Allahu Akbar when committing this vile crime they appeared to be Muslims.
So when Robinson was giving his report back to the news desk he repeated that these men were of Muslim appearance.
Anybody have a problem with that?
Should anyone have a problem with that?
Yet 43 people found it offensive and complained to the BBC about using this reference. I don't know who they were, but I'm willing to bet they are probably most, if not all, Muslims.
Consider the crime that has just been carried out, and the reporter hasn't called them vile and vicious Muslims, which would also be true, just 'of Muslim appearance'. Who would think any complaint under the circumstances was justified? A wife and 2 year old son have just lost their husband and father, his parents their son, what type of sick mind is going to complain about referring to his attackers as of Muslim appearance when it's pretty certain THEY WERE?
We've recorded quite a few instances where complaints have been lodged to the BBC, far more justified and with far greater merit, than whatever sensibilities could possibly have found offence at this phrase, and the BBC have no problem stating their case, even twisting the truth to justify it and uphold their original stance.
But in this case, they immediately issue an apology. Not by letter, or as an update to a relevant article, but a whole webpage devoted to it.
Dhimmitude or subservience is one of the aims of Islam in their strategy of terror to rule the world. Ultimately dhimmis are forced to convert to Islam or murdered. We see it portrayed by the BBC, our government and public services, and the rest of the left wing mindset as the appeasement to Muslims even if it contradicts the values of our own society.
I posted a recording of an interview last week where an Imam from Oxford talking about why it had taken so long for our police and social services to act against the Muslim grooming gangs who had raped, tortured and sold out girls as young as 11. He stated quite clearly because we continue to pussyfoot around and are afraid to call a spade a spade.
Clearly the BBC hasn't learned any lessons.
I would recommend that our security services take note of those who complained and keep their eyes on them. No integrated being could take offence at what was said originally by the BBC.
All of us integrated beings should take offence at what the BBC has done since.
A senior Whitehall source speaking to Nick Robinson of the BBC told him that given they had attacked a soldier without provocation, and had shouted Allahu Akbar when committing this vile crime they appeared to be Muslims.
So when Robinson was giving his report back to the news desk he repeated that these men were of Muslim appearance.
Anybody have a problem with that?
Should anyone have a problem with that?
Yet 43 people found it offensive and complained to the BBC about using this reference. I don't know who they were, but I'm willing to bet they are probably most, if not all, Muslims.
Consider the crime that has just been carried out, and the reporter hasn't called them vile and vicious Muslims, which would also be true, just 'of Muslim appearance'. Who would think any complaint under the circumstances was justified? A wife and 2 year old son have just lost their husband and father, his parents their son, what type of sick mind is going to complain about referring to his attackers as of Muslim appearance when it's pretty certain THEY WERE?
We've recorded quite a few instances where complaints have been lodged to the BBC, far more justified and with far greater merit, than whatever sensibilities could possibly have found offence at this phrase, and the BBC have no problem stating their case, even twisting the truth to justify it and uphold their original stance.
But in this case, they immediately issue an apology. Not by letter, or as an update to a relevant article, but a whole webpage devoted to it.
Dhimmitude or subservience is one of the aims of Islam in their strategy of terror to rule the world. Ultimately dhimmis are forced to convert to Islam or murdered. We see it portrayed by the BBC, our government and public services, and the rest of the left wing mindset as the appeasement to Muslims even if it contradicts the values of our own society.
I posted a recording of an interview last week where an Imam from Oxford talking about why it had taken so long for our police and social services to act against the Muslim grooming gangs who had raped, tortured and sold out girls as young as 11. He stated quite clearly because we continue to pussyfoot around and are afraid to call a spade a spade.
Clearly the BBC hasn't learned any lessons.
I would recommend that our security services take note of those who complained and keep their eyes on them. No integrated being could take offence at what was said originally by the BBC.
All of us integrated beings should take offence at what the BBC has done since.
BBC political editor Nick Robinson's extraordinary apology after backlash against 'Muslim appearance' comment about Woolwich killers
By James Rush
The BBC's political editor has apologised for directly quoting a Whitehall source who described the Woolwich killers as being 'of Muslim appearance'.
Nick Robinson said he was sorry for using the phrase, which 'was both liable to be misinterpreted and to cause offence', during the BBC News at Six broadcast yesterday.
The corporation received dozens of complaints after he used the comment just hours after British soldier Lee Rigby, 25, was brutally murdered in the street.
Robinson today took to his BBC blog to apologise for using the phrase. He explains how he was informed by a senior Whitehall source just minutes before the BBC News at Six yesterday that the incident was being treated as a suspected terrorist incident.
He wrote: 'The police had, I was told, described the attackers as being "of Muslim appearance" and shouting "Allahu Akbar". On air I directly quoted a senior Whitehall source saying that the police had used that description.
'That phrase "of Muslim appearance" clearly offended some who demanded to know what it could possibly mean. Others were concerned that it was a racist generalisation.'
The BBC received a total of 43 complaints after Robinson used the phrase, The Guardian has reported.
Robinson's report was also picked up by other media organisations who reported it as evidence that the incident was a terror attack.
The dead soldier, who was wearing a Help for Heroes top, was hit by a Vauxhall Tigra on the pavement before two crazed men attacked him with knives.
Witnesses said the suspects 'hacked and chopped' at his body and were shouting 'Allah Akbar!' - an Islamic phrase meaning 'God is great' - and yelling 'this is what God would have wanted.'
One of the men was identified as Michael Adebolajo, 28, who ranted on camera with a clear south London accent saying 'you people will never be safe'.
The suspected killers were later shot by police and will be questioned by anti-terror officers once they have recovered.
Robinson wrote on his blog: 'The reports of eye witnesses and the video of the attacker demonstrated that the attack had been carried out by those claiming to be retaliating because "Muslims are dying daily by British soldiers".
'Despite this and the fact that I was directly quoting a source I'm sorry for using a phrase that, on reflection, was both liable to be misinterpreted and to cause offence. Many Muslims were quick to condemn the attack and to distance themselves and their religion from the brutal savagery seen on the streets of Woolwich.'
The comment yesterday sparked complaints from users on social networking and micro-blogging sites, including Hannah McGill, a film reviewer and panellist on BBC Four's Review Show, who wrote on Twitter: 'Whatever just happened, @bbcnews, it is entirely not OK for your correspondents to refer to anyone as "of Muslim appearance".'
'I'm sorry for using a phrase that, on reflection, was both liable to be misinterpreted and to cause offence': Nick Robinson's apology in full...
It was a barbaric attack carried out in broad daylight on the streets of London. A man hacked to death. The attackers had been shot by the police. An extraordinary and horrific story but not one, you might think, for the Political Editor of the BBC.
However, the fact that the victim was wearing a 'Help for Heroes' T-shirt and was walking near an army barracks raised the possibility that it was something else as well - an act of terrorism with implications for the country as a whole. That was my instinct as soon as I heard about the story, but instinct is not enough. I started to try to establish whether the government was treating it that way.
With minutes to go before the BBC News at Six I was told by a senior Whitehall source that the incident was being treated as a suspected terrorist incident and being taken very seriously indeed. This information changed the news from a crime story to something of more significance. The police had, I was told, described the attackers as being 'of Muslim appearance' and shouting 'Allahu Akbar'. On air I directly quoted a senior Whitehall source saying that the police had used that description.
That phrase 'of Muslim appearance' clearly offended some who demanded to know what it could possibly mean. Others were concerned that it was a racist generalisation.
My report and the quotation were picked up by many other news organisations as evidence that this was a terror attack. The reports of eye witnesses and the video of the attacker demonstrated that the attack had been carried out by those claiming to be retaliating because 'Muslims are dying daily by British soldiers'.
Despite this and the fact that I was directly quoting a source I'm sorry for using a phrase that, on reflection, was both liable to be misinterpreted and to cause offence. Many Muslims were quick to condemn the attack and to distance themselves and their religion from the brutal savagery seen on the streets of Woolwich.
The overnight protests of the English Defence League and attacks on some mosques lead some to fear the consequences for community relations. This all makes people understandably sensitive about anything which could be used to justify hostility to people on the basis of their appearance or religion.
- Nick Robinson used the phrase hours after soldier Lee Rigby was murdered
- He has now apologised after the BBC received dozens of complaints
- He said he used the phrase while directly quoting a Whitehall source
By James Rush
The BBC's political editor has apologised for directly quoting a Whitehall source who described the Woolwich killers as being 'of Muslim appearance'.
Nick Robinson said he was sorry for using the phrase, which 'was both liable to be misinterpreted and to cause offence', during the BBC News at Six broadcast yesterday.
The corporation received dozens of complaints after he used the comment just hours after British soldier Lee Rigby, 25, was brutally murdered in the street.
Robinson today took to his BBC blog to apologise for using the phrase. He explains how he was informed by a senior Whitehall source just minutes before the BBC News at Six yesterday that the incident was being treated as a suspected terrorist incident.
He wrote: 'The police had, I was told, described the attackers as being "of Muslim appearance" and shouting "Allahu Akbar". On air I directly quoted a senior Whitehall source saying that the police had used that description.
'That phrase "of Muslim appearance" clearly offended some who demanded to know what it could possibly mean. Others were concerned that it was a racist generalisation.'
The BBC received a total of 43 complaints after Robinson used the phrase, The Guardian has reported.
Robinson's report was also picked up by other media organisations who reported it as evidence that the incident was a terror attack.
The dead soldier, who was wearing a Help for Heroes top, was hit by a Vauxhall Tigra on the pavement before two crazed men attacked him with knives.
Witnesses said the suspects 'hacked and chopped' at his body and were shouting 'Allah Akbar!' - an Islamic phrase meaning 'God is great' - and yelling 'this is what God would have wanted.'
One of the men was identified as Michael Adebolajo, 28, who ranted on camera with a clear south London accent saying 'you people will never be safe'.
The suspected killers were later shot by police and will be questioned by anti-terror officers once they have recovered.
Robinson wrote on his blog: 'The reports of eye witnesses and the video of the attacker demonstrated that the attack had been carried out by those claiming to be retaliating because "Muslims are dying daily by British soldiers".
'Despite this and the fact that I was directly quoting a source I'm sorry for using a phrase that, on reflection, was both liable to be misinterpreted and to cause offence. Many Muslims were quick to condemn the attack and to distance themselves and their religion from the brutal savagery seen on the streets of Woolwich.'
The comment yesterday sparked complaints from users on social networking and micro-blogging sites, including Hannah McGill, a film reviewer and panellist on BBC Four's Review Show, who wrote on Twitter: 'Whatever just happened, @bbcnews, it is entirely not OK for your correspondents to refer to anyone as "of Muslim appearance".'
'I'm sorry for using a phrase that, on reflection, was both liable to be misinterpreted and to cause offence': Nick Robinson's apology in full...
It was a barbaric attack carried out in broad daylight on the streets of London. A man hacked to death. The attackers had been shot by the police. An extraordinary and horrific story but not one, you might think, for the Political Editor of the BBC.
However, the fact that the victim was wearing a 'Help for Heroes' T-shirt and was walking near an army barracks raised the possibility that it was something else as well - an act of terrorism with implications for the country as a whole. That was my instinct as soon as I heard about the story, but instinct is not enough. I started to try to establish whether the government was treating it that way.
With minutes to go before the BBC News at Six I was told by a senior Whitehall source that the incident was being treated as a suspected terrorist incident and being taken very seriously indeed. This information changed the news from a crime story to something of more significance. The police had, I was told, described the attackers as being 'of Muslim appearance' and shouting 'Allahu Akbar'. On air I directly quoted a senior Whitehall source saying that the police had used that description.
That phrase 'of Muslim appearance' clearly offended some who demanded to know what it could possibly mean. Others were concerned that it was a racist generalisation.
My report and the quotation were picked up by many other news organisations as evidence that this was a terror attack. The reports of eye witnesses and the video of the attacker demonstrated that the attack had been carried out by those claiming to be retaliating because 'Muslims are dying daily by British soldiers'.
Despite this and the fact that I was directly quoting a source I'm sorry for using a phrase that, on reflection, was both liable to be misinterpreted and to cause offence. Many Muslims were quick to condemn the attack and to distance themselves and their religion from the brutal savagery seen on the streets of Woolwich.
The overnight protests of the English Defence League and attacks on some mosques lead some to fear the consequences for community relations. This all makes people understandably sensitive about anything which could be used to justify hostility to people on the basis of their appearance or religion.