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Post by habbiner on Jul 3, 2013 13:09:01 GMT
I cant see the point of detailing the BBCs political bias. Its across all the channels in a co-ordinated way. I would be here all day if we could.
There must be an office that co-ordinates its political output that equates to social engineering.
My central point is this. I havent read the constitution of the BBC, neither am i a lawyer. What i am asking is that someone somewhere must investigate whether the BCC are BREAKING THE LAW.
Surely they have no right to express a political opinion funded by the tax payer.
Changes at the top are useless, they appoint ex BBC employees. Patten is part of the problem. Political extremists now control the BBC and it must stop.
If it was possible to bring a court case i would certainly help fund it.
Regards, Habbiner.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Jul 3, 2013 17:41:02 GMT
A warm welcome Habbiner.
First consider yourself fortunate that you have the awareness that you do. Whatever else goes on in your life, it's likely you will make better decisions than otherwise.
To respond to 'what is the point of detailing BBC bias', it's simply to keep a record of many of their blatant transgressions, and expose their mindset for what it is.
It doesn't matter whether they were left or right wing biased, the fact that they ARE biased shows they have no ethics or morality and can be seen to be completely self-serving. Everybody is entitled to their opinion and world view, but BBC staff have to be aware that their funded purpose is to make sure a fair and balanced view is presented by those capable of best doing that - from both sides of the spectrum. In this way it is up to the individual to form their own dependent on their experiences, understanding, knowledge and intelligence.
For a long time they have not only not attempted to do this, but actually now use the power they know they have to generate their agenda with a conscious intent. Like every tyrant, they are stupid, evil and crass, which only increases the longer they continue to get away with it.
Because we here lack the same visibility we can only provide the information and rely on word of mouth to spark interest to those who hitherto have been unaware of the information they are being fed. That unless they are personally involved in a particular item, which wakes them up, they will have their world and reality coloured.
Consider the site a chronicle, consider it a tool, consider it a refuge where you will find others who have learned to 'think outside the box' and use their own minds and research to form their world view.
Regarding lawsuits and such, I know of those who have publicly and privately challenged payment of the licence fee on the basis that BBC output is harmful and distorted. It seems if the BBC feel they might have a case they don't pursue it, and few get to hear about it.
Looking at the powers operating in our society at present, and the prevalent mindset, it appears as none with the power to tackle the BBC are prepared to do so because of the likely fall-out.
If it's any consolation, our society is going to get worse - it has to because of the dynamics within, largely sponsored by the BBC, and more and more are 'waking up' to their culpability in having made this dire reality. Beliefs like 'the BBC is an organisation we can be proud of', can only be held until the shit starts hitting the fan, which daily more and more is. Then people start looking at the cold hard facts that got them into that situation.
This is besides the fact that their very mentality is going to cause more and more examples of their corruption to come out in the other spheres. They are greedy selfish arrogant pigs, and they do what greedy selfish arrogant pigs do.
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Post by habbiner on Jul 4, 2013 11:19:54 GMT
I cant disagree with any of that. I have a character that when presented by a problem, i have to do something about it. You have by creating this site, but it doesnt change it.
The BBC continues to brain wash the easily led into a political mind set that is harmful to everyone.
Maybe you can help. Maybe you know people in the legal profession who think like us that can investigate the legalities, or illegalities of their shocking practices. Isnt that a bigger stick than a moaning site?
I have worked most of my working life in the NHS. It is a public service like the BBC. It serves its own purposes like the BBC, and service to the "customer ", is secondary to its own needs.
Patient care is secondary to management.
The BBC is the same. It serves its own purpose and needs to be SWEPT AWAY. Im looking for a workable way to do it. It sounds grand but so what. I watch the BBC news just to marvel at its screwed up mentality, and its lies. No one blows the whistle because people want to continue to work.
What gets my goat is that i help pay for it. That REALLY makes me angry. Regards, Habbiner.
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Post by habbiner on Jul 4, 2013 11:22:27 GMT
p.s. Recently it came by word of mouth that a friend of a friend was in hospital as an inpatient, and threw up. She asked for help from a nurse. The nurse said "I dont do that, ive got a degree".
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Post by habbiner on Jul 4, 2013 11:32:05 GMT
Teddybear, Ive been browsing the site. It seems to me that there are to many sections, it needs condensing. It will take a long time to read it all.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Jul 4, 2013 17:16:21 GMT
I'll answer you in reverse order Habbiner. There are over 1900 topics and over 5500 posts in the various categories. I don't expect anybody to read them all, but it's separated into the various categories to make it easy to research any particular one to suit the interest of the reader. There is also a search facility if you are looking for a particular subject, incident, or topic. I purposefully started this format website precisely because on the original Biased BBC website so many valuable contributions were being lost in the Open Threads. I don't regard it as a 'moaning' website, although that may be an underlying reason to bother. As I explained above, it's intended to fulfil other purposes. Bear in mind that when somebody makes a search on Google or the like for a particular theme, the thread could come up and it will undoubtedly show a different version of events than what was reported in much of the mainstream media and especially the BBC. With reference to a trial. I have communicated with a UK lawyer, Trevor Asserson, who is very conversant with BBC bias. In fact, he set up the original website of BBC Watch to monitor BBC bias against Israel. If a trial was based on likelihood from the evidence available, then something might be achieved, but with the status quo and the burden of proof required, it's doubtful it will get anywhere. You will have noticed the BBC has no reservations about using licence fee money to pay for whatever legal fees they need. Would be hard to match from a private source, though there have been those that tried, especially in regard to releasing the Balen Report. I agree 100% with you about the insidious nature of the BBC, and history shows that ultimately they will get theirs, but looking at the dynamics involved, it will take a while. Regarding (not) paying the licence fee, I would suggest you check out your rights here: [/li][li] Anti TVL Forum With Advice about YOUR RIGHTSSo long as there is no way to see that you receive live transmissions from outside your property, it's fairly easy to avoid paying.
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Post by steevo on Jul 4, 2013 23:32:37 GMT
Habbiner, why don't you set a moment with some appreciation for sites like this? What you're doing is venting or moaning, made possible by Teddy. Presumably you've been aware of the corrupt institutional leftism within the organization for some time now. You must realize that if it was possible to build a big enough sledge hammer Teddy or anyone else outside the box would do just that, like yourself I assume. It helps to establish focal points or communities of like-minded individuals for understanding and motivation and this forum was created in the hope of doing just that. Any possible outcome for good will be as a consequence of each and every individual. It's good to have you... don't be a stranger
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Post by Teddy Bear on Jul 5, 2013 17:33:42 GMT
Cheers Steevo - and I trust you had a good Independence Day
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Post by steevo on Jul 5, 2013 19:21:47 GMT
Liberation. Too bad it was so long ago, and from you I could wish for another independence day for the both of us.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Jul 5, 2013 19:42:20 GMT
Amen to that
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Post by habbiner on Jul 7, 2013 14:11:46 GMT
I didnt mean to come across ungrateful for this site, just frustrated. Im delighted that someone has looked into the legalities of what the BBC are doing, to the vast majority its obvious the BBC are completely biased, except in the eyes of the law.
Nearly everybody i talk to expresses the views that are written on this site, yet the country seems to me to be almost entirely Labour, or communist. There is no distinction.
I dont get this disparity. When i watch programmes like Sunday Politics, and The Big Questions, my blood boils. And yet i see myself as a socialist, but not the regressive, destructive, evil undermining, manipulative, lying rubbish of Labour.
Ive worked in the NHS with social workers, all of which are headbangers of the first order. How do people get to think like this? How can they believe it? The only sense i can make of it is that they are like Mormons or Adventists etc.
As a friend said, there is no correlation between a high iq gullibilty, you can be super bright, but taken in by coviction.
The return to common sense seems to be happening with the daily humiliation of the red bretheren. I feel helpless in the face of it, but someting will crop up, it always does.
Regards, Habbiner.
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Post by Teddy Bear on Jul 7, 2013 20:30:15 GMT
How do people get to think like this? How can they believe it? The only sense i can make of it is that they are like Mormons or Adventists etc.Good question. My opinion is that it 'sounds good' to a lot of people, who've never really thought it through. To those who lack the intellect to think it through, they adhere to it because others have made it appear it's a good way to think. For the BBC, there are those journalists who fit the above, but the power within uses it to make the corporation appear 'good'. We saw it used a few days ago in the review about the immigration and EU bias where it claims The review also heard evidence that the BBC is hamstrung by a "fundamental niceness" and reluctance to give offence.It's so disingenuous because anybody who's followed the BBC way of dealing with opponents to their agenda will see they are anything but nice, and have no qualms about giving offence. I stress the words 'APPEAR GOOD' because in most cases with any of this mindset, their hypocrisy is quickly apparent whenever they are challenged, because they are out of their depth. They almost immediately resort to insult and abuse. We see something different in general with BBC public figures, as evidenced today in this incident with one of the BBC Wimbledon commentators, so full of his own arrogance and self image, made this comment about the woman champion: Following Bartoli’s straight sets victory over the German Sabine Lisicki, John Inverdale asked BBC Radio 5 Live listeners: “Do you think Bartoli’s dad told her when she was little 'You’re never going to be a looker? You’ll never be a Sharapova, so you have to be scrappy and fight.’” High IQ merely means potential. If the work of actually thinking things out is not done thoroughly, then it doesn't materialize to anything of value.
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