Post by Teddy Bear on Nov 25, 2007 20:30:24 GMT
There's a vicious circle that can be observed that enables the balance of power that mostly affects our society to continue:
The media don't refer to their own influence in affecting public opinion; and politicians don't refer to it either, because to do so would diminish their own illusion of potency.
Thus the media really control in large part how most of the public will think, and the politicians have to pander to it. This insidious silent force, corrupt by its very nature, continues to brainwash the masses. Any form of spirituality must be stifled, as this might lead to 'enlightenment' about the status quo, and in its place - materialism, and the frenzy for the 'latest' is pushed to the limit , with no consideration or perspective put forward about how little this brings happiness or contentment into anybody's life beyond the short term.
Journalists prey on the fact that most people are content to allow others to think for them, and will adopt what they perceive as 'the popular attitude', regardless if it initially has any basis in fact until it becomes 'the popular attitude', when it is then too late to change it, or risk being ostracized by the mainstream for differing.
For this reason, ANY journalist that is trying to present an observation on our society that doesn't also address the power of the media in shaping whatever behaviour is being described, is disingenuous and corrupt. They are engaged in perpetrating the brainwashing described above.
In the excerpt below from the BBC presenter John Humphreys' book 'In God We Doubt', published in today's Telegraph, he relates how politicians in the UK don't mention any faith they might have in God for fear of being ridiculed by the public. Either Humphrey's is a fool or enjoying his role swaying public opinion to his desired point of view, since it is the very media that first pours scorn on this faith that makes politicians here have to keep it under wraps. I believe he's the latter, which makes him a fool of another kind.
Though personally I am not religious, I much prefer the higher values that Christianity embodies, than the immoral and foul self serving antics that presently leads our society.
The media don't refer to their own influence in affecting public opinion; and politicians don't refer to it either, because to do so would diminish their own illusion of potency.
Thus the media really control in large part how most of the public will think, and the politicians have to pander to it. This insidious silent force, corrupt by its very nature, continues to brainwash the masses. Any form of spirituality must be stifled, as this might lead to 'enlightenment' about the status quo, and in its place - materialism, and the frenzy for the 'latest' is pushed to the limit , with no consideration or perspective put forward about how little this brings happiness or contentment into anybody's life beyond the short term.
Journalists prey on the fact that most people are content to allow others to think for them, and will adopt what they perceive as 'the popular attitude', regardless if it initially has any basis in fact until it becomes 'the popular attitude', when it is then too late to change it, or risk being ostracized by the mainstream for differing.
For this reason, ANY journalist that is trying to present an observation on our society that doesn't also address the power of the media in shaping whatever behaviour is being described, is disingenuous and corrupt. They are engaged in perpetrating the brainwashing described above.
In the excerpt below from the BBC presenter John Humphreys' book 'In God We Doubt', published in today's Telegraph, he relates how politicians in the UK don't mention any faith they might have in God for fear of being ridiculed by the public. Either Humphrey's is a fool or enjoying his role swaying public opinion to his desired point of view, since it is the very media that first pours scorn on this faith that makes politicians here have to keep it under wraps. I believe he's the latter, which makes him a fool of another kind.
Though personally I am not religious, I much prefer the higher values that Christianity embodies, than the immoral and foul self serving antics that presently leads our society.
We prefer politicians without a hotline to God
By John Humphrys
Last Updated: 12:01am GMT 25/11/2007
So now we know. Tony Blair does God. In fact, to quote Alastair Campbell, he does God "in quite a big way". Both men have been talking to David Aaronovitch for The Blair Years on BBC1 next Sunday. What they say casts light on one of the more intriguing aspects of the Blair character.
He admits that his faith is "hugely important" to him: "You can't have a religious faith and it be an insignificant aspect because it's…it's profound about you and about you as a human being." He even says there's "no point" in denying it because "I don't actually think there is anything wrong in having religious conviction. On the contrary, I think it is a strength for people."
So why did he allow Campbell to intervene when he was asked about his religion and warn the interviewer that "We don't do God"? Well, the obvious answer is that that was then - when Blair was prime minister - and this is now and someone else sits in Number 10.
"You talk about it in our political system," he says, "and frankly people do think you're a nutter."
Do they really? They don't in many other countries. In the United States they think you're a nutter if you don't talk about God. As Blair puts it, they respond "quite naturally" when a politician talks about his religious faith. Are we really so different?
On one level we clearly are. The vast majority of Americans believe in God and most of those fully expect him to return to Earth pretty soon - probably to Arkansas or thereabouts. Research I conducted for my latest book suggests that fewer than a third of people in this country believe in the sort of God worshipped by Tony Blair. About the same number believe in something, but they're not sure what. And almost half think the influence of religion is harmful. Fewer than a fifth think it is beneficial.
The obvious explanation for that is fear of religious extremism, of the terrorist who flies a plane into a building with the name of Allah on his lips. The Roman Catholic Archbishop of Birmingham, Vincent Nichols, thinks the general unease in the West over Islam gives other religions a bad name. Earlier this year he said the acts of terrorism had "shaken up people's perception of the presence of faiths in this country and around the world".
It's hard to argue with that, but it only partly explains Blair's reluctance to "do God" while he was in power. Campbell put it like this: "I just always worry in Britain the public are a bit wary of politicians who go on about God. I said my worry is that the Tories will pick this up and say: this is you saying to be a Christian you've gotta be Labour. And that's a bad political position to be in."
What Blair seems to have been worried about was creating the perception that he allowed faith rather than reason to dictate his actions. I remember his reaction when first Jeremy Paxman and then David Frost asked him whether he and George Bush prayed together. He looked like a man who'd been asked whether he regularly sat in a bath of cold custard to ward off evil spirits. The answer, it seemed after some very uncomfortable shrugs, was no. By any political measurement he was right to duck the question.
Here's what he suspects we might think if our leaders admit to a religious faith: "I mean they sort of…you know…you maybe go off and sit in the corner and commune with the man upstairs and then come back and say: 'Right! I've been told the answer and that's it.'?"
Fair enough. If our prime minister decides to invade a foreign country we want to think he's not doing it because God told him to do it, but because he has been satisfied by the evidence that it's in the best interests of the British people. But I wonder if he and Campbell and the political class in general may have got it all a bit wrong.
Menzies Campbell, the former leader of the Liberal Democrats, says the public might have been less willing to give Blair the triumph of three consecutive general election victories "if they'd known the extent to which ethical values would overshadow pragmatism". Yet there is a world of difference between ethical values and hardline religious dogma.
For all our unease about extremism we are still remarkably tolerant of other people's beliefs or non-belief. We still seem perfectly willing to accept the presence of 26 bishops in the House of Lords, even though it has been reformed in so many other respects. Middle class parents still fight like tigers (and lie when necessary) to get their little Tarquins into the local C of E school if it happens to be the best in the area - which it often is. There are still howls of outrage when some daft bureaucrat suggests that the Christmas carol concert might better be replaced with a nice secular concert featuring appropriate green symbols rather than angels in a manger.
There is a curious and not unwelcome dichotomy here. We don't, by and large, believe in God but we defend the rights of others to do so. When I "came out" on Radio Four and admitted through a series of interviews that I no longer believed in a personal God, the reaction was overwhelmingly sympathetic - especially from those who do believe.
Alastair Campbell describes Blair as "pretty irreverent". He swears a fair bit, says Campbell, has a wandering eye for a very attractive woman and "doesn't look like your classic religious sort of guy". Peter Mandelson says he's "not an exhibitionist when it comes to religion but deep inside him it is very, very important… This is a man who takes a Bible with him wherever he goes and last thing at night will read from the Bible." And yet, in 10 years running the country, Blair did not do God.
More than 30 years ago, when I was a young correspondent in Washington, I got a call from a Republican congressman who was a friend of mine, to tell me that he had just left a prayer meeting at the White House. President Nixon had asked for God's guidance as to what he should do over Watergate. Eight hours later he went on television to resign.
I still want to know if prime minister Blair really did ask God what he should do. And I still want to know how we, the voters, would have reacted, if he'd told us.
• John Humphrys's latest book, In God We Doubt, is published by Hodder & Stoughton
By John Humphrys
Last Updated: 12:01am GMT 25/11/2007
So now we know. Tony Blair does God. In fact, to quote Alastair Campbell, he does God "in quite a big way". Both men have been talking to David Aaronovitch for The Blair Years on BBC1 next Sunday. What they say casts light on one of the more intriguing aspects of the Blair character.
He admits that his faith is "hugely important" to him: "You can't have a religious faith and it be an insignificant aspect because it's…it's profound about you and about you as a human being." He even says there's "no point" in denying it because "I don't actually think there is anything wrong in having religious conviction. On the contrary, I think it is a strength for people."
So why did he allow Campbell to intervene when he was asked about his religion and warn the interviewer that "We don't do God"? Well, the obvious answer is that that was then - when Blair was prime minister - and this is now and someone else sits in Number 10.
"You talk about it in our political system," he says, "and frankly people do think you're a nutter."
Do they really? They don't in many other countries. In the United States they think you're a nutter if you don't talk about God. As Blair puts it, they respond "quite naturally" when a politician talks about his religious faith. Are we really so different?
On one level we clearly are. The vast majority of Americans believe in God and most of those fully expect him to return to Earth pretty soon - probably to Arkansas or thereabouts. Research I conducted for my latest book suggests that fewer than a third of people in this country believe in the sort of God worshipped by Tony Blair. About the same number believe in something, but they're not sure what. And almost half think the influence of religion is harmful. Fewer than a fifth think it is beneficial.
The obvious explanation for that is fear of religious extremism, of the terrorist who flies a plane into a building with the name of Allah on his lips. The Roman Catholic Archbishop of Birmingham, Vincent Nichols, thinks the general unease in the West over Islam gives other religions a bad name. Earlier this year he said the acts of terrorism had "shaken up people's perception of the presence of faiths in this country and around the world".
It's hard to argue with that, but it only partly explains Blair's reluctance to "do God" while he was in power. Campbell put it like this: "I just always worry in Britain the public are a bit wary of politicians who go on about God. I said my worry is that the Tories will pick this up and say: this is you saying to be a Christian you've gotta be Labour. And that's a bad political position to be in."
What Blair seems to have been worried about was creating the perception that he allowed faith rather than reason to dictate his actions. I remember his reaction when first Jeremy Paxman and then David Frost asked him whether he and George Bush prayed together. He looked like a man who'd been asked whether he regularly sat in a bath of cold custard to ward off evil spirits. The answer, it seemed after some very uncomfortable shrugs, was no. By any political measurement he was right to duck the question.
Here's what he suspects we might think if our leaders admit to a religious faith: "I mean they sort of…you know…you maybe go off and sit in the corner and commune with the man upstairs and then come back and say: 'Right! I've been told the answer and that's it.'?"
Fair enough. If our prime minister decides to invade a foreign country we want to think he's not doing it because God told him to do it, but because he has been satisfied by the evidence that it's in the best interests of the British people. But I wonder if he and Campbell and the political class in general may have got it all a bit wrong.
Menzies Campbell, the former leader of the Liberal Democrats, says the public might have been less willing to give Blair the triumph of three consecutive general election victories "if they'd known the extent to which ethical values would overshadow pragmatism". Yet there is a world of difference between ethical values and hardline religious dogma.
For all our unease about extremism we are still remarkably tolerant of other people's beliefs or non-belief. We still seem perfectly willing to accept the presence of 26 bishops in the House of Lords, even though it has been reformed in so many other respects. Middle class parents still fight like tigers (and lie when necessary) to get their little Tarquins into the local C of E school if it happens to be the best in the area - which it often is. There are still howls of outrage when some daft bureaucrat suggests that the Christmas carol concert might better be replaced with a nice secular concert featuring appropriate green symbols rather than angels in a manger.
There is a curious and not unwelcome dichotomy here. We don't, by and large, believe in God but we defend the rights of others to do so. When I "came out" on Radio Four and admitted through a series of interviews that I no longer believed in a personal God, the reaction was overwhelmingly sympathetic - especially from those who do believe.
Alastair Campbell describes Blair as "pretty irreverent". He swears a fair bit, says Campbell, has a wandering eye for a very attractive woman and "doesn't look like your classic religious sort of guy". Peter Mandelson says he's "not an exhibitionist when it comes to religion but deep inside him it is very, very important… This is a man who takes a Bible with him wherever he goes and last thing at night will read from the Bible." And yet, in 10 years running the country, Blair did not do God.
More than 30 years ago, when I was a young correspondent in Washington, I got a call from a Republican congressman who was a friend of mine, to tell me that he had just left a prayer meeting at the White House. President Nixon had asked for God's guidance as to what he should do over Watergate. Eight hours later he went on television to resign.
I still want to know if prime minister Blair really did ask God what he should do. And I still want to know how we, the voters, would have reacted, if he'd told us.
• John Humphrys's latest book, In God We Doubt, is published by Hodder & Stoughton