Post by Teddy Bear on Nov 7, 2009 21:17:12 GMT
Following the recent murder of 13 US military personnel by a deranged Muslim army psychologist, I knew it was only a matter of time before BBC bias would show itself, and it has.
To understand just how much the BBC is avoiding relating certain facts of this incident with regard to the religious convictions of this man which led to this attack, first read this article in today's Telegraph
When you consider that the militant use of Islam gives license for any adherent to murder non-believers (jihad) and be granted a place in heaven with their 72 virgins and serving boys. So ANY disaffected Muslim facing any kind of adversity can always fall back on this 'way forward' as their way of dealing with it. We can expect many more acts of this kind within our society perpetrated by these brainwashed beings. The more those forces such as government and media within our society that try to appease and kowtow to these elements, the greater we empower these potential murderers, and make the likelihood of further attacks a matter of 'when' not 'if'.
The BBC wants to put its head in the sand and ignore it as if it will simply go away. Prefering instead to blame our society for this insidious behaviour. As far as militant Islam is concerned it's 'see no evil; hear no evil; and speak no evil, for the BBC.
Every article on this item at the BBC dismises the facts stated above in the Telegraph, concentrating instead that these murders came as a result of what was done to this maniac, in other words, that he was the victim and he was almost justified in doing what he did.
Consider this article by Mark Mardell, the BBC man in the US, on the subject:
Just what gives this man the arrogance to claim that 'his province is terrorism and events that touch the soul of a nation'? Before being the BBC man in the US he was covering Europe. Only 2 months ago he was the subject of an article in this forum for his slobbish behaviour at the cost of the licence fee payer.
He goes on:
If this one paragraph doesn't sum up the blinkard attitude prevalent at the BBC then nothing does.
'The truth is cloudy' ' the alleged murderer' what planet is Mardell living on?
This is a man that was witnessed by hundreds and wounded many more than he actually killed - he is not an alleged murderer. The truth is cloudy for Ardell because he chooses to obfuscate it.
'Very little to suggest'.... What does he need before he sees 'something'?
'Senseless' only for the BBC
Here's a couple of excellent comments that were posted on the BBC website in response to this article. Here' is somebody that does see 'something':
If the authorities chose to 'look the other way' in an effort to appease Muslims, particularly when they exhibit questionable behaviour, then it clearly highlights the dangers of this policy. Remember the BBC still claims to see NOTHING!
To understand just how much the BBC is avoiding relating certain facts of this incident with regard to the religious convictions of this man which led to this attack, first read this article in today's Telegraph
Fort Hood shootings: FBI given gunman's name six months ago
The US Army major who killed 13 people in a shooting spree at America's biggest military base had come to the attention of the FBI six months earlier over possible links to extremist comments posted on the internet.
By Gordon Rayner and Nick Allen in Fort Hood, Texas
Published: 9:59PM GMT 06 Nov 2009
Major Nidal Malik Hasan, a devout Muslim who was trying to buy his way out of the Army, was suspected of being the author of postings which compared suicide bombers to heroic soldiers who throw themselves onto grenades to save others.
It also emerged that Hasan, 39, had described the US Army as "the aggressor" in Iraq and Afghanistan and was resisting a planned deployment to Afghanistan, raising questions over whether the military missed warning signs which might have prevented the massacre.
Witnesses said Hasan shouted "Allahu akbar", Arabic for God is great, as he opened fire – a phrase commonly used by Islamic militant suicide bombers – though investigators said there was no evidence he had been recruited by al-Qaeda or other Islamic extremist organisations.
Hasan – who was initially thought to have been killed – is being kept alive on a ventilator after being shot four times by a civilian policewoman who was the first officer on the scene of the shooting at Fort Hood, Texas. Officer Kimberley Munley, whose actions were described as "amazing and aggressive", is one of 30 survivors who were shot by Hasan, of whom 28 remain in hospital.
Six months ago the FBI was alerted to postings by a blogger called Nidal Hasan on the Scribd website. The author wrote about a US soldier who had died smothering a grenade blast, saying: "Scholars have paralled (sic) this to suicide bombers whose intention, by sacrificing their lives, is to help save Muslims by killing enemy soldiers.
"If one suicide bomber can kill 100 enemy soldiers because they were caught off guard that would be considered a strategic victory."
Law enforcement sources said that before the shooting no formal investigation had been launched into the internet postings and Hasan had not been confirmed as the author, but his apartment in Killeen, Texas, has now been searched and his computer seized.
"This is going to be a long and convoluted and messy investigation," the source said.
The gunman, a psychiatrist at the Darnall Army Medical Center on the base, whose job is to help soldiers deal with combat stress, was said by his family to be "mortified" at the prospect of being sent to Afghanistan, which they said would have been his "worst nightmare".
A neighbour who lived in the same apartment block as Hasan said he had told her he was due to leave for Afghanistan yesterday, just 24 hours after the shooting.
Patricia Villa said Hasan had given her frozen food, T-shirts, shelves, an air mattress, briefcases and a new copy of the Koran, and offered her $60 to clean his flat after he left. Investigators have not given details of whether Hasan had been due to leave so soon, or whether he was putting his affairs in order knowing he was about to go on the rampage.
Hasan, who prayed every day at his local mosque, had begun Thursday, as he did every day, by visiting a 7-eleven convenience store on the base to buy groceries. A CCTV image from the store showed him at 6.20am local time wearing a long white dishdasha and skull cap, the traditional Arab dress he often wore when off-duty.
"He looked normal," said the owner of the store. "He came in and bought coffee and hash browns."
Around 300 soldiers had assembled at the Soldier Readiness Center on the base, where they were to have inoculations before being sent to Afghanistan, when Hasan, dressed in his military uniform, entered at 1.30pm and opened fire at close range with two privately-owned handguns.
None of the soldiers were armed and some barricaded themselves into rooms off the main hall of the building while Hasan repeatedly reloaded his weapons and fired indiscriminately for 10 minutes, killing 12 soldiers and a civilian.
Survivors described how Hasan had "a very calm and measured approach" as he fired scores of rounds. Lt Gen Bob Cone, the base commander, said one soldier had told him "I made the mistake of moving and I was shot again". Others "would scramble to the ground and help each other out", he added.
Officer Munley and a colleague were on the scene three minutes after the first shots were fired, but it took several more minutes before they could stop Hasan as he carried on firing.
Once the gunman had been brought down, soldiers rushed to treat their comrades by ripping up their uniforms into makeshift bandages.
The dead included Private Michael Pearson, 21, from Chicago. His mother Sheryll said: "His father is still in shock and very angry. We're all very angry."
Captain Reis Ritz, 30, a physician working in the emergency room at Fort Hood when the dead and dying came in, said: "It was just unreal. When I heard there was a shooting I thought initially it might be a drill. But when I saw the wounds and the number coming in I realised what was happening.
"There were gunshot wounds to the chest and abdomens. They seemed like random shots all over the place. Some of the guys were unconscious, others were talking when they came in but we had to put them under," he told the Daily Telegraph.
"I was trying to resuscitate people, clearing airways, replacing blood, inserting chest tubes. It was frantic, chaotic but controlled. We are a close community and we wanted to do our best for these guys."
Nadar Hasan, a cousin of the gunman, said: "We are shocked and saddened by the terrible events at Fort Hood today. We send the families of the victims our most heartfelt sympathies. We are filled with grief for the families of today's victims. Our family loves America. We are proud of our country, and saddened by today's tragedy. The actions of our cousin are despicable and deplorable."
President Obama met FBI director Robert Mueller to discuss the investigation but said the motive was still uncertain.
"We don't know all the answers yet and I would caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all the facts," said Mr Obama, who ordered flags to fly at half-mast on federal buildings across the country.
The US Army major who killed 13 people in a shooting spree at America's biggest military base had come to the attention of the FBI six months earlier over possible links to extremist comments posted on the internet.
By Gordon Rayner and Nick Allen in Fort Hood, Texas
Published: 9:59PM GMT 06 Nov 2009
Major Nidal Malik Hasan, a devout Muslim who was trying to buy his way out of the Army, was suspected of being the author of postings which compared suicide bombers to heroic soldiers who throw themselves onto grenades to save others.
It also emerged that Hasan, 39, had described the US Army as "the aggressor" in Iraq and Afghanistan and was resisting a planned deployment to Afghanistan, raising questions over whether the military missed warning signs which might have prevented the massacre.
Witnesses said Hasan shouted "Allahu akbar", Arabic for God is great, as he opened fire – a phrase commonly used by Islamic militant suicide bombers – though investigators said there was no evidence he had been recruited by al-Qaeda or other Islamic extremist organisations.
Hasan – who was initially thought to have been killed – is being kept alive on a ventilator after being shot four times by a civilian policewoman who was the first officer on the scene of the shooting at Fort Hood, Texas. Officer Kimberley Munley, whose actions were described as "amazing and aggressive", is one of 30 survivors who were shot by Hasan, of whom 28 remain in hospital.
Six months ago the FBI was alerted to postings by a blogger called Nidal Hasan on the Scribd website. The author wrote about a US soldier who had died smothering a grenade blast, saying: "Scholars have paralled (sic) this to suicide bombers whose intention, by sacrificing their lives, is to help save Muslims by killing enemy soldiers.
"If one suicide bomber can kill 100 enemy soldiers because they were caught off guard that would be considered a strategic victory."
Law enforcement sources said that before the shooting no formal investigation had been launched into the internet postings and Hasan had not been confirmed as the author, but his apartment in Killeen, Texas, has now been searched and his computer seized.
"This is going to be a long and convoluted and messy investigation," the source said.
The gunman, a psychiatrist at the Darnall Army Medical Center on the base, whose job is to help soldiers deal with combat stress, was said by his family to be "mortified" at the prospect of being sent to Afghanistan, which they said would have been his "worst nightmare".
A neighbour who lived in the same apartment block as Hasan said he had told her he was due to leave for Afghanistan yesterday, just 24 hours after the shooting.
Patricia Villa said Hasan had given her frozen food, T-shirts, shelves, an air mattress, briefcases and a new copy of the Koran, and offered her $60 to clean his flat after he left. Investigators have not given details of whether Hasan had been due to leave so soon, or whether he was putting his affairs in order knowing he was about to go on the rampage.
Hasan, who prayed every day at his local mosque, had begun Thursday, as he did every day, by visiting a 7-eleven convenience store on the base to buy groceries. A CCTV image from the store showed him at 6.20am local time wearing a long white dishdasha and skull cap, the traditional Arab dress he often wore when off-duty.
"He looked normal," said the owner of the store. "He came in and bought coffee and hash browns."
Around 300 soldiers had assembled at the Soldier Readiness Center on the base, where they were to have inoculations before being sent to Afghanistan, when Hasan, dressed in his military uniform, entered at 1.30pm and opened fire at close range with two privately-owned handguns.
None of the soldiers were armed and some barricaded themselves into rooms off the main hall of the building while Hasan repeatedly reloaded his weapons and fired indiscriminately for 10 minutes, killing 12 soldiers and a civilian.
Survivors described how Hasan had "a very calm and measured approach" as he fired scores of rounds. Lt Gen Bob Cone, the base commander, said one soldier had told him "I made the mistake of moving and I was shot again". Others "would scramble to the ground and help each other out", he added.
Officer Munley and a colleague were on the scene three minutes after the first shots were fired, but it took several more minutes before they could stop Hasan as he carried on firing.
Once the gunman had been brought down, soldiers rushed to treat their comrades by ripping up their uniforms into makeshift bandages.
The dead included Private Michael Pearson, 21, from Chicago. His mother Sheryll said: "His father is still in shock and very angry. We're all very angry."
Captain Reis Ritz, 30, a physician working in the emergency room at Fort Hood when the dead and dying came in, said: "It was just unreal. When I heard there was a shooting I thought initially it might be a drill. But when I saw the wounds and the number coming in I realised what was happening.
"There were gunshot wounds to the chest and abdomens. They seemed like random shots all over the place. Some of the guys were unconscious, others were talking when they came in but we had to put them under," he told the Daily Telegraph.
"I was trying to resuscitate people, clearing airways, replacing blood, inserting chest tubes. It was frantic, chaotic but controlled. We are a close community and we wanted to do our best for these guys."
Nadar Hasan, a cousin of the gunman, said: "We are shocked and saddened by the terrible events at Fort Hood today. We send the families of the victims our most heartfelt sympathies. We are filled with grief for the families of today's victims. Our family loves America. We are proud of our country, and saddened by today's tragedy. The actions of our cousin are despicable and deplorable."
President Obama met FBI director Robert Mueller to discuss the investigation but said the motive was still uncertain.
"We don't know all the answers yet and I would caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all the facts," said Mr Obama, who ordered flags to fly at half-mast on federal buildings across the country.
When you consider that the militant use of Islam gives license for any adherent to murder non-believers (jihad) and be granted a place in heaven with their 72 virgins and serving boys. So ANY disaffected Muslim facing any kind of adversity can always fall back on this 'way forward' as their way of dealing with it. We can expect many more acts of this kind within our society perpetrated by these brainwashed beings. The more those forces such as government and media within our society that try to appease and kowtow to these elements, the greater we empower these potential murderers, and make the likelihood of further attacks a matter of 'when' not 'if'.
The BBC wants to put its head in the sand and ignore it as if it will simply go away. Prefering instead to blame our society for this insidious behaviour. As far as militant Islam is concerned it's 'see no evil; hear no evil; and speak no evil, for the BBC.
Every article on this item at the BBC dismises the facts stated above in the Telegraph, concentrating instead that these murders came as a result of what was done to this maniac, in other words, that he was the victim and he was almost justified in doing what he did.
Consider this article by Mark Mardell, the BBC man in the US, on the subject:
'Senseless tragedy'?
Mark Mardell | 16:53 UK time, Friday, 6 November 2009
As the 24-hour news channels reported the horror unfolding in Texas, they struggled with a single question.
Some were circumspect in their speculation; others were less so. And the crux was this: who was responsible?
Was this the work of a lone madman? Or of a terrorist? Or of several terrorists?
I am sure the question was asked in the White House and that it was foremost in most viewers' minds.
It was certainly foremost in mine - for professional reasons. Random shootings are not my province, whereas terrorism and events that touch the soul of a nation for months to come are.
Just what gives this man the arrogance to claim that 'his province is terrorism and events that touch the soul of a nation'? Before being the BBC man in the US he was covering Europe. Only 2 months ago he was the subject of an article in this forum for his slobbish behaviour at the cost of the licence fee payer.
He goes on:
The truth is of course cloudy. The alleged murderer was clearly a Muslim, but there is very little to suggest that he adhered to a hard-line interpretation of his religion or that he had political or religious motives.
If this one paragraph doesn't sum up the blinkard attitude prevalent at the BBC then nothing does.
'The truth is cloudy' ' the alleged murderer' what planet is Mardell living on?
This is a man that was witnessed by hundreds and wounded many more than he actually killed - he is not an alleged murderer. The truth is cloudy for Ardell because he chooses to obfuscate it.
'Very little to suggest'.... What does he need before he sees 'something'?
He may or may not have posted something on the internet defending suicide bombers. But he also appears to have been traumatised by the idea of being sent to a combat zone.
Still, people will speculate - as I am doing. Life may become more uncomfortable for his innocent co-religionists, a regrettable consequence of any such attack.
We search for certainty and for answers. Some will go down blind alleys: reports of his "religious attire", for example, may turn out to be a red herring. There will be a demand for answers about how he got private handguns onto a military base. In a state where people love their guns and their right to carry them, it may be a fairly pointless inquiry. In any case, it can't be hard for a solider to get his hands on a gun.
A lot of us wondered how he managed to shoot forty or so people with two guns. I imagine the truth may be that although his victims were soldiers, few of them were armed.
But for some, nothing less than a conspiracy will do as an explanation. On the website of a respected newspaper, I see one poster has blamed Barack Obama, whom he calls "that Marxist thug". It's not that it's hard to follow the logic; it's that there isn't any.
Still, searching for patterns and for answers is part of what it is to be human. I loathe cliche, but perhaps, for once, this is a "senseless tragedy", devoid of deeper meaning.
'Senseless' only for the BBC
Here's a couple of excellent comments that were posted on the BBC website in response to this article. Here' is somebody that does see 'something':
11. At 6:41pm on 06 Nov 2009, Ed Simmons wrote:
The tragedy here is that someone in the military allowed a psychologist who was apparently not performing well at Walter Reed Medical Center and who had made statements against American foreign policy in the Mideast to be transferred to Ft Hood, a place where soldiers embark for the Mideast. The fact that the Major was a Muslim and apparently had told someone that the earlier killing of a soldier in Alabama at an Army Recruiting Station was justified makes the Army's decision to keep him on regular duty, a travesty. Also it's been said his actions were reported by colleagues at Walter Reed up the chain of command and nothing was done. How many red flags does the Army need to have waved before they safeguard our troops?
If the authorities chose to 'look the other way' in an effort to appease Muslims, particularly when they exhibit questionable behaviour, then it clearly highlights the dangers of this policy. Remember the BBC still claims to see NOTHING!
15. At 7:03pm on 06 Nov 2009, rawhideron wrote:
You are absolutely correct GH1618. This is not an impromptu act of violence committed by a so-called "looney". Let's examine the evidence we have so far. The accused, Major Hasan, is a devout Muslim who has verbally expressed anger towards U.S. involvement in Afghanistan and Iraq. Also, he expressed sympathy with the Muslim terrorist who, just a few months ago, shot and killed two soldiers at an army recruiting office in Little Rock, Arkansas. Furthermore, he had revealed to co-workers that he approved the acts of suicide bombers, coupled with making the statement that, "Muslims need to stand up to the aggressor [the United States]". Before retiring, I worked for many years as a federal agent in the U.S. and we commonly referred to characters like Hasan as "sleepers". This means that they are potentiol terrorists who live seemingly normal lives for a period of time in a certain community and at the "right moment" will launch an attack. Folks--let's not allow the henious governance of political correctness make cowards of us all. Let's call this situation for what it truly is--an act of Muslim terrorism!